RI EV charging program

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  1. Kimberly19

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    My state has a new two year program for EV drivers. I think it’s for EV and not for say, Prime owners, but sharing here because it’s encouraging to see some states moving forward on EV programs, despite some states instituting regressive taxes and restrictions on EV’s.

    Grid seeks to recruit 500 electric car owners for 'SmartCharge RI' | Warwick Beacon
     
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    How do you define a "regressive" tax on EV's and what restrictions are states imposing?
     
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    Some states are imposing extra fees to register EV cars, essentially a penalty for owning it.
     
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    This is not a penalty, it is a replacement for the gasoline taxes you no longer pay with an EV. Road maintenance isn't free.
     
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    It's a penalty when the fee exceeds what a comparable ICE car would typically pay in fuel tax.

    With many being a flat fee, it is regressive as it isn't based upon how much it uses of the road.
     
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    Until a mileage-based or electricity-based solution comes along, then the fee will have to do.
     
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    the fee is regressive to environmental progress, and in no way helps our infrastructure.
     
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    "Regressive to environmental progress"? If that were the case, I would have thought that the Sierra Club of Nebraska would have opposed this fee. They were first in line to testify in favor of an EV fee at the State Capitol this February.

    Any money collected in road use fees should help infrastructure. A million dollars is a collection of a million individual dollars.

    Is it your belief that EV's should get a free ride on the roads?
     
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    yes, to promote sustainable energy. are you aware that gas taxes are not dedicated to infrastructure?
     
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    "Sustainable energy" is promoted in the various credits offered by Federal, State governments and utilities. After you buy the car, you have to pay to drive it on the road same as everyone else. The road doesn't know the tires that are rolling on it are connected to an EV. It wears out just the same.
     
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    we'll have to agree to disagree. an increase in gas tax will accomplish more, and push more gas drivers to ev's.
    there's nothing fair about being taxed in this country, and ev's are the least of our problems.
     
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    If more drivers go to EV's with an increased gas tax, then where will the funds for fixing the roads originate?
     
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    when enough ev's are on the roads to make a difference, then it will be time to change road tax methods.
     
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    In the meantime, road maintenance in your state (and every other state in the US) will continue to be underfunded. Then we can all share driving on crappy roads.
     
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    agreed. our roads and bridges are terrible. but it started long before any ev's were being sold. it is a political problem, not a fuel type one.
    therein issue is that most taxpayers don't want to pay for infrastructure repair, so most pols are afraid to vote for it.
    ev tax is the easy way to look good, but accomplish nothing.
     
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    interesting about sierra nebraska, almost every other google hit shows sierre club against ev taxes. and i found a great article about them and the koch bros., whom you and i have discussed before.
     
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    My position on this issue has been consistent - everybody who drives on the roads should share in the cost of maintaining the roads. No breaks for any special interests. I testified at the legislature that my PHEV should have half the registration fee as an EV, since about half my overall driving (but not half around town) is on EV. They didn't change the legislation, so I drive around town on EV with no road use fees. It seems a number of states have gone this route with PHEVs.
     
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    mine has been as well. we live in a country with all kinds of governmental incentives and disincentives.
    road taxes should not be immune
     
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    Solution - get rid of them all.
     
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    agreed. what are we smoking?:p
     
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