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Rumsfeld steps down.

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Wildkow, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. etyler88

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    If Rummy resigned just two days ago would that have saved the Senate?
     
  2. tripp

    tripp Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it?

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(prez1 @ Nov 8 2006, 12:28 PM) [snapback]345686[/snapback]</div>
    YES, YES, and YES. This is precisely the problem and the sooner people stop demonizing each other, roll-up their sleeves and work together the sooner gov't will be effective. Perfect is the enemy of Good and what this country needs are good policies, not perfect ones.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(etyler88 @ Nov 8 2006, 11:50 AM) [snapback]345706[/snapback]</div>
    Sure.

    When Rumsfeld steps down, we'll step up.

    Do you think Nancy Pelosi put this to Bush in the early morning phone call? And did you notice when Bush told the press corps that he obviously worked a lot harder on the election than Karl Rove? It was meant to be a joke (wasn't it?) but the crowd groaned and Rove wasn't laughing.

    Who should be next to go?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(prez1 @ Nov 8 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]345704[/snapback]</div>
    The money was paid to the families of the 9/11 victims so that they would not sue the airlines and put them out of business.
     
  5. Wildkow

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alnilam @ Nov 8 2006, 10:00 AM) [snapback]345605[/snapback]</div>
    Code Blue sending a crash cart now, hag in there Alnilam help is coming! :p

    Wildkow

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(etyler88 @ Nov 8 2006, 11:50 AM) [snapback]345706[/snapback]</div>
    Excellent question! I don't think so, I think rather it would have confirmed voter choices.

    Wildkow

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tripp @ Nov 8 2006, 12:18 PM) [snapback]345734[/snapback]</div>
    What someone is demonising the Demoncrats?!? How dare they, poor losers!

    Wildkow
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alnilam @ Nov 8 2006, 04:26 PM) [snapback]345738[/snapback]</div>
    Wolfowitz. Combsucker...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alnilam @ Nov 8 2006, 03:26 PM) [snapback]345738[/snapback]</div>
    BUSH AND CHENEY!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dragonfly @ Nov 8 2006, 04:10 PM) [snapback]345778[/snapback]</div>
    President Pelosi, anyone?
     
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    Wish he would have picked Powell.
     
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    Wish he would have *listened* to Powell. I wish all the NeoCons and rightards of america had listened to Powell.
     
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    This thread needs this picture, but my keyboard didn't need the Dr. Pepper I nose blasted on it when I saw it the first time, though.

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    I only see "IPB Image" but no link or picture in Firefox 2.0 on Macintosh, although I can see the picture inline using Safari.

    Anybody else have this problem ? I have Java, Javascript, and auto picture load enabled.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(EricGo @ Nov 8 2006, 04:34 PM) [snapback]345801[/snapback]</div>
    Just a jpg, here's the url http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a92/ikanr...rstweekever.jpg
     
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    I'm seeing it fine with FF2 on a mac.
     
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    2 days ago it would have looked like a sign of desperation and would have confirmed voters' choices of the Dems. 2 MONTHS ago with a strong replacement suggesting changes and increased troops temporarily before a withdrawl, etc. etc..... That may have been enough to swing these closer states...at least the Senate. The cries for him to be ousted have been going on for much longer than that, but falling upon deaf ears. The republicans have no one to blame, but themselves, for this loss.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dragonfly @ Nov 8 2006, 03:28 PM) [snapback]345744[/snapback]</div>
    Yes, I think we all know that. Did you know it was set up by Congress and funded with your taxpayer dollars? And the agreement you sign when you accept the money is that you will not sue the airlines or any other entity (like the government). I feel sorry for the families of the victims, but I don't think my tax money should go to a fund to pay them. If a loved one of yours is killed by a terrorist who is in the country illegally, should we have to pay you for your loss? That's the basis of my point. Sometimes bad things happen to people, but that doesn't make it the responsibility of the US people.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(prez1 @ Nov 8 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]345820[/snapback]</div>
    yes
    Totally agree.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(prez1 @ Nov 8 2006, 05:51 PM) [snapback]345820[/snapback]</div>
    Are you saying it is no one's responsibility, or someone's, and you just haven't decided who ?

    "Acts of God" aka natural disasters are covered with taxpayer money. Are you against that also ?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Nov 8 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]345819[/snapback]</div>
    I agree completely with you. As a person who voted for them way back when, I can tell you that I am very satisfied with the results from yesterdays election. I believe they strayed away from my desires for them - a small Federal government, lower or flat taxes, states rights trumpeting judicial fiat, smaller government spending, etc. It is the same way I felt when Hamas won their elections earlier this year - not a great analogy. If this does not wake them up, nothing will. On the other hand, it is better that it happened in an "off year" election than during the Presidential election cycle. We will see if they get the message.

    On the other hand I am impressed with how the Dems are handling themselves.

    My hope - a middle ground is reached and we can move forward on all fronts, especially Iraq and the War on Terror.

    Rummy stepping down is a good thing - 6 years is tooo long. Gates seems to be a good man for the position at first glance.

    Also good is that both parties now have a stake in governing - it is never good for one party to controll all three branches.
     
  20. efusco

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    I hope this election creates lingering memories in the leadership of both parties. Whenever one gets a bit too full of itself and stops listening to the minority party, and even to the press to some extent, someone should say "Whoa, slow down guys...remember '06?!"

    The beauty of our system is how quickly we can 'bitch-slap' the party in power and bring them around to reason. I have no illusions of longer term 'peace' b/w the parties and pretty much see the word 'bipartisan' as a campaign tool rather than part of the real vocabulary of anyone in power. But, hope springs eternal!