Rumsfeld steps down.

rudiger · Nov 10, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NuShrike @ Nov 10 2006, 02:07 AM) [snapback]346802[/snapback]</div>

As I understand it, it was the CIA under Tenet that 0wn3d Afghanistan. The Pentagon had neither the preplanning nor the training to do something like in such a short window.

Then CheneyRumsfield fscked it up by pulling troops and management for the Iraq Incursion. Then, the very smart and successful Tenet took the fall for the "intelligence failures" created by the CheneyRumsfield intelligence-inside machine when the Iraq Incursion was exposed to be just warped dreams.

Now, Afghanistan slid back into turmoil and Iraq is now a bog. Meantime, North Korea was busy jumping and waving around that they had everything Iraq was dreamt to have, but continued to be fully ignored.

I call this a very successful fsck up by CheneyRumsfield. If there was ever a time in history where two men were in the right place to do their things, it was now.[/b]
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That's my understanding of the Afghanistan fiasco, as well.

Afghanistan was primarily a CIA operation under Tenet. It was so successful (in the beginning) that when it later became necessary for Rumsfeld to send in troops to seal of the Afghanistan border into Pakistan and finish the job, due to Rumsfeld's vanity, jealousy, and preparation for the Iraq invasion, he held off sending troops for at least a month for no other reason. This allowed bin Laden to slip away and the insurgency in Afghanistan to continue and the Taliban to eventually return.

Bush then allowed Rumsfeld and the DoD to run roughshod over both the CIA and the State Dept during Operation Iraqi Liberation (you know, OIL) simply because of his close ties with Cheney (the 'Nixon pair') and it's cost the United States (and the Republican party) dearly.

Had Rumsfeld been more interested in getting bin Laden than invading Iraq and promoting himself, things would have worked out a lot better.

Alric · Nov 10, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rudiger @ Nov 10 2006, 11:37 AM) [snapback]346894[/snapback]</div>

That's my understanding of the Afghanistan fiasco, as well.

Afghanistan was primarily a CIA operation under Tenet. It was so successful (in the beginning) that when it became necessary for Rumsfeld to send in troops to seal of the Afghanistan border into Pakistan, due to Rumsfeld's vanity, jealousy, and desire to prove himself in Iraq, he held off sending troops for at least a month. This allowed bin Laden to slip away.

Bush then allowed Rumsfeld and the DoD to run roughshod over both the CIA and the State Dept simply because of his close ties with Cheney (the 'Nixon pair') and it's cost the United States (and the Republican party) dearly.

Had Rumsfeld been more interested in getting bin Laden than invading Iraq and promoting himself, things would have worked out a lot better.
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Yes. This is all documented in the Frontline documentaries "Rumsfeld's War" and "The Dark Side". Just follow my frontline link at the sig.

Cheers!

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