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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. Trollbait

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    We are clearing more rain forest, pushing further into the wilds, and permafrost thawing right now. I doubt we'll get a 100 year respite.
     
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    We had multiple opportunities over the past hundred years, with only one really "getting away".
     
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    Readers are likely aware of many recent publications on (more or less) inadvertent steps to put more human lugs closer to the 'zoonotic frontier'. It's like a new mini-publishing industry, and pretty grim.

    The generalized replacement of wild-animal biomass with farmed-animal biomass seems to get less attention. Petri dishes for animal host jumping, as far as the eye can see.

    I probably mentioned somewhere around here that there are more farmed chickens on earth now than all individuals of all other bird species. It is quite a thing to commandeer a planet.
     
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    it's all colonel sanders fault
     
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    From a quick glance this looks like it's mostly for people that have become deathly sick from the usual / prior Covid-19 vaccinations.
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    but it's not. it is for people with blood cancers, or those undergoing treatments that reduce the immune response to the vaccine.
     
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    ... and for those allergic to vaccine ingredients.
     
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    interesting. does that mean people on ace inhibitors are more or less susceptible to covid?
     
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    in ma, we're running about 80% of last years hospitalizations, icu and intubations on this date.

    not great considering 70% vaxxed, any boosted and a large number recovered from covid.

    but considering that everything is open now, not as bad as it looks.
     
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    it is an amazing variant, everyone's baffled. masks aren't working, contact time with infected is almost nil.
    kids are spreading it like crazy resulting in hospitalizations. deaths are up, highly vaccinated states don't seem to be doing much better than vaccinated.

    everyone's hoping it spikes quickly and receds quickly like s.a.
     
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    But it is also mostly staying in the upper respiratory tract, not reaching the lower tract where other variants cause much of their damage and plenty of scarring.

    "Many cells in the lung carry a protein called TMPRSS2 on their surface that can inadvertently help passing viruses gain entry to the cell. But Gupta’s team found that this protein does not grab on to omicron very well. As a result, omicron does a worse job of infecting cells in this manner than delta does. A team at the University of Glasgow independently came to the same conclusion.

    Through an alternative route, coronaviruses can also slip into cells that do not make TMPRSS2. Higher in the airway, cells tend not to carry the protein, which might explain the evidence that omicron is found there more often than the lungs."


    Studies suggest why omicron is less severe: It spares the lungs | The Seattle Times
     
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    good news if correct! still, hospitalizations continue to rise
     
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    Remember that fatalities are a lagging indicator, about 6 weeks. Omicron is entering 4 weeks since hitting the USA and it appears to avoid some of the original COVID and Delta, infected treatments. I'll wait to February before busting out the beverages.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    we've had a sharp increase in fatalaties the last few weeks, i'm not sure why. people with weakened immune systems getting careless, or those around them?
     
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    Omicron has a high infection rate and some of the treatments for infected people are not as effective as they were with the original and Delta. Early reports suggests Omicron is an upper respiratory disease versus the deep lung of the first two, This bug and its family are a slippery SOB.

    Bob Wilson
     
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