SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

I'm thinking that the spike in fatalities are largely Delta cases which were spiking in the NE shortly pre-Omicron.

Omicron is {insert notional large number here} more contagious than Delta. Probably somewhere between one and two orders of magnitude's worth - real world.
HOWEVER (comma!) the fact that this month's flavor is pretty much just hanging out in the snott-locker means that it's a lot more TREATABLE by the various therapeutics that have been developed to date.
EVEN the one which earned a Nobel Prize for Medicine, whose name shall not be mentioned in polite company....

If you follow some of the news sites in Israel and the UK, they have a "slightly" different take on the "Omicold" - a word that they're trying to ban in the UK.
Israel's data are interesting too.
Omicron doesn't seem to be able to read those "Green Passes" that they use there - so they're going to bust out some more syringes for jab #4.

Me?
I'm ALSO old enough to remember a time when I thought that rather than arguing over shots 2 and 3 HERE, we ought to push out more FIRST jabs to Zero-jab nations........like.....perhaps.......South Africa.

Lather - Rinse - Repeat.

We should start a pool on where the next variant (Pi? Rho?) will come from, and award 50,000 Priuschat trophy points to the winner.

Put me down for Ukraine, with an option for the 'Stan.

Awfully cold in those two places, and political upheaval and contagions are VERY OLD playmates.

 

hospitalizations spiking suddenly here:

2,240 hospitalized as of 01/03/22 with 72% of the state vaxxed. case numbers are absurd, but i care less for them now than i did back then.

2,430 was the peak surge last year on 01/04/21

not sure how much delta there was around back then, and almost no vax, iirc.

icu and intubations spiking as well, deaths are about half. i suppose we've already lost a lot of the most vulnerable.
interestingly, the public has mostly moved on, mask use has decreased significantly from my observations, and everything is wide open.

 

Of the hospitalized, what are the percentages:

• unvaccinated?
• three dose vaccinated?
• lesser dose vaccinated?

Bob Wilson

 

unfortunately, i can't find that data. if it'sout there, i don't know where. it's not on the ma dept of public health.
there is a breakdown by age, and old (Er) people are still taking it in the shorts.

before the spike of the last week or so, vaxxed were running about 1/3 and unvaxxed 2/3 of hospitalizations.
interestingly, despite media hype, childrens numbers are very low. only 5 under 12 years old in the hospital.

 

i've read articles on how t and b cells work, but they are not fully understood by anyone yet.

best we can do for now is studies of infected humans, and so far, the biggest omicron problem is contagiousness.
that being said, many are starting to treat it more like the flu or a cold. but i am more interested in how many in the hospital have delta v omicron, than i am breakthrough infections.
unfortunately, all the omicron talk has many 'just folks' thinking delta is no longer an issue.

 

Especially us

JeffD

 

Between 1 and 2 orders of magnitude, in base 2.

 

So, original gangsta version Ronda was the baseline at "really really contagious" , then gamma went through so fast that it was not mentioned, then "Delta is 2x-4x more transmissible?" And now we're hearing that "moronic is up to 4-6x more again" .... So basically there's no way out until natural immunity snuffs it out ? Oops I mentioned the evil natural thing.

In other news, vaccine manufacturers finally admit that it's not feasible, economical, or even possible to keep jabbing the planet every 3-6 months.

Oxford Covid-19 vaccine scientist says 'we can't vaccinate the planet every six months' - CNN



Dang it, they're not supposed to agree with what I said about protective the vulnerable and getting out of everyone else's way, TWO YEARS AGO. That's just not cool !

 

That would mean people that shamed and blamed those who got no shot & quickly got natural immunity & had no symptoms - were wrongly accused of being the root cause. Pride gets in the way. Then there's the lawsuits. people getting fired for no shots? Get your job back? Or your big fat money settlement. People tend to fight and die for a hill that doesn't amount to one of beans.
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easy on the hill references big fella

 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/eji.202149535

 

it is hard to know how much omicron is stressing hospital resources vs delta. i can't find data anywhere.
not that it really matters. government has pretty much thrown in the towel. it's the wild, wild west from here to eternity

 

Source: Covid in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count - The New York Times


Sorted: HOSPITALIZED PER 100,000

 

thanks!
i already have that data. just no data on how many or what percentage of hospitalized/icu/intubations/deaths are omicron.
i think, because there is so much omicron hype, people are forgetting that delta is still with us, and likely causing most of the misery since Christmas