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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Big corporations would be against whistleblower protections, regardless of what industry they are in, or if their products were currently of public focus.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    The next variant: The new BA.2 omicron subvariant is already circulating in half of U.S. states
    • The omicron subvariant, known as BA.2, is 1.5 times more transmissible than the original omicron strain, according to Danish scientists.
    • The U.K. Health Security Agency on Friday said BA.2 has a “substantial” growth advantage over the original omicron, known as BA.1.
    • Nearly half of U.S. states have confirmed the presence of BA.2 with at least 127 known cases nationwide as of Friday.
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    lol ... remember guys, moronic was supposed to give us "a winter of death" but it came and went like a bum looking for free dollars
     
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    been a lot of deaths here
     
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    Now I guess we're saying 'went' whenever a variant is overtaken by an even-more-transmissible variant.
     
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    If you can't cure a disease, write a book. Wait, Pfizer isn't looking for a cure, are they?
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    i'm sure lots of companies would love to find one, but it is probably more difficult than what everybody has come up with so far.
    medically, prevention is probably easier and more important than cures
     
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    I don’t care because there would not be enough time to read it.

    I prefer credible, empirical reports for the best approach. In contrast, Republicans should use FOX and other ‘skeptical’ sources.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    That is good news. Just initially, like the first vaccines, there are likely to be supply chain challenges. Regardless, the vaccines appear to be effective in reducing the severity and risk of hospitalization and death.

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    For those, supply chain challenges are from production and distribution numbers. It is only the mRNA vaccines (and not all of those) that require super cold storage; a distinct supply chain challenge.

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    Looking ahead, one can anticipate a wide range of mRNA vaccines with needs for super cold storage along many supply chains. For those not opposed to mRNA vaccines, they can be anticipated to help with a wide range of diseases. Further ahead there will be mRNi which are mRNA sequences designed to interfere (i for interfere) with mRNA doing bad things in your cells. I have read about those in connection with cancer and metabolic diseases. So yeah, lots of freezers for -78 oC.

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    I just returned from Chinese New Year celebration, marking 2 years of this new world around here. It remains difficult to grasp how much the world has been changed by this one stupid bat virus that got a lucky jump to humans.
     
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    Source: The Power of Boosters - The New York Times

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    Source_2: COVID-19 Incidence and Death Rates Among Unvaccinated and Fully Vaccinated Adults with and Without Booster Doses During Periods of Delta and Omicron Variant Emergence — 25 U.S. Jurisdictions, April 4–December 25, 2021 | MMWR

    COVID-19 Incidence and Death Rates Among Unvaccinated and Fully Vaccinated Adults with and Without Booster Doses During Periods of Delta and Omicron Variant Emergence — 25 U.S. Jurisdictions, April 4–December 25, 2021

    Weekly / January 28, 2022 / 71(4);132–138

    . . .
    During April 4–December 25, 2021, a total of 6,812,040 COVID-19 cases among unvaccinated persons and 2,866,517 cases among fully vaccinated persons were reported among persons aged ≥18 years in 25 U.S. jurisdictions; 94,640 and 22,567 COVID-19–associated deaths among unvaccinated and fully vaccinated persons, respectively, were reported by December 4 (Table 1). Average weekly, age-standardized rates of cases and deaths (events per 100,000 population) were higher during periods of Delta predominance and Omicron emergence than during pre-Delta and Delta emergence periods and were consistently higher in all periods among unvaccinated persons (range = 64.0–725.6 [cases] and 1.5–11.4 [deaths]) than among fully vaccinated persons (range = 7.4–230.9 and 0.1–0.7).
    . . .

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    Bisco - we pray you haven't joined the death cult - passing on stories like this ....
    Tongue & cheek aside,
    The Amish have done this as well ... but they didn't even do 5% vax. Time to duck back behind the couch.
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    prevention is not profitable.

    being a quarterly jab provider, heavily invested in importing of PPE though... very very profitable.

    if only there was a pill you could take every single day, that would prevent SYMPTOMS of infection, that the govt forced everyone to take in order to be employed.... think how enticing that proposition would be.

    it'll never happen though.

    ;-)
     
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    Bob,

    That data is out of date as it was for a period before Omicron took over. We need equivalent data to see the effectiveness of the existing vaccines on Omicron patients.

    JeffD
     
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    When your population's median age is 18 years, it probably weathers most infectious diseases well.

    The Amish will see whooping cough, measles, and even polio more often than the rest of the population. If they did reach a herd immunity, and the evidence is antedotal, they paid a price for it in deaths.
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    Closed but Not Protected: Excess Deaths Among the Amish and Mennonites During the COVID-19 Pandemic
    Death and religion: ‘Excess deaths’ sweep through Amish and Mennonite communities during COVID-19 pandemic | WVU Today | West Virginia University
     
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    Interesting .... it would follow then that the Africans would also have issues with whooping cough measles polio. Not a good tradeoff.