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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. John321

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    My point in post #6679 would be that the vaccine is very safe.

    I personally have had all the Covid, RSV and Flu vaccines.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Latest CDC graph:
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    So this year:
    • All but RSV
      • No objections to RSV vaccination but I act as if I have a busy life.
      • RSV primarily impacts the young which I have little to no contact.
      • First year vaccine, subsequent versions will be better tuned to the RSV bug.
    • Local ICU beds at 80-85%, decreasing risks.
    • Wear a mask when in high risk areas and MAGA idiots are around to piss off.
    Bob Wilson
     
  3. tochatihu

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    " ... MAGA idiots are around to piss off."

    Oh Baaaab
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I plead measles.

    Bob Wilson
     
  5. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

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    I'm reserving judgement on all these "vaccines" until they figure out what the heck is causing the tremendous increase in what physicians are calling "turbo" cancers.
    My sister has COPD so her and my brother-in-law have gotten all the Covid shots and boosters. A month ago, he got checked out (he's been feeling terrible) and is in stage-4 leukemia and only 1-3 months to live. This is turbo cancer....just comes on suddenly and grows exponentially.
    Why aren't drug companies releasing their own research data on their products without court orders? Prior to the "vaccination" being release, we were told quite a few lies....that we'd be protected from catching it, not true...that we wouldn't be able to spread it, not true...that if we DID catch it the impact would be lessoned, also not true.
    If you gave your dog 6 shots of the rabies vaccine and, yet, he caught rabies, wouldn't you have questions?
     
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    Yea ... hold a place in line for me

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  8. fuzzy1

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    How many years after his last annual booster expired?

    I'm aware of 1- and 3-year versions, but not lifetime versions.

    "While no vaccine is 100% effective ... In one study, 4.9% of cases of rabid dogs had a history of prior rabies vaccination."

    "To be licensed in the United States, vaccines must protect at least 88% of vaccinated animals against challenge with virulent virus."


    Rabies Vaccination in Dogs | Today's Veterinary Practice
     
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    Vaccines inform human immune system to anticipate something, and make T cells in advance. Maybe also take other actions. Vaccines succeed with small additions because human immune system is hyper vigilant. This hyper vigilance is not how things are for plain old cells, here and there, that occasionally tragically flip into cancer mode.

    Cancer mode is an inappropriate proliferation of cells (basically wherever) and launching of such frisky cells via bloodstream or lymph to other places where wrong friskiness may expand. If this intro version dissatisfies, we would all benefit from an improved version from our other participants.

    What causes cells to break bad? That is of large research interest. If cells are over exposed to reactive oxygen species, there can be uncorrected errors in DNA replication. Other chemical insults may also cause that. Skin cells sometimes overdosed by UV light can have this problem, Whatever the full range of precursors are, they don't realistically include small vaccine injections to arm or butt. Wrong spot, poor transfer to 'cancer maybe later' places, and no mechanism reported.

    And yet, conspiracies are gon na 'conspir' or whatever it is they do.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    "Social Media..."
    THERE is a good place to get medical information!

    All of those negatives aren't going to prove themselves, now ARE they? ;)
     
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    Since we are comparing ColoradoBoo's experience to mine... His brother in law and sister both took the covid Vaccine, and while neither contracted Covid, one of the two of them came down with a cancer that was not in any way related to the vaccine. There was no mention of what BIL did prior to falling ill. So we have a 50% success rate out of a sample of 2 people.

    In my family, we have 15 people (group A) who fall into the group that followed the CDC instructions. 11 people (group B) ignored the CDC. Two matriarchs in their 90s live on the west coast. One lived in Tokyo Japan when the atomic bombs were dropped. The other lived through the great depression of 29, complete with living in tar-paper shacks and asbestos lined pipes.

    Neither of the Group A matriarchs contracted the disease.

    Only 4 Group A people contracted Covid. All 4 shared a cross country airline flight to attend a family wedding with 200 in attendance. One experienced a resurgence of breast cancer after a 30 year remission.

    All members of my son's wife's family contracted Covid multiple times. They were in group B. One developed breast cancer, one went through chemo and radiation after being diagnosed as having cancer. All members of her family flew cross country without regard to covid protection procedures.

    100% of group B contracted Covid multiple times.

    4 of 15 in group A contracted covid once, attributed to close contact with distant family members who flew in for a wedding without protection.

    11 group A people never got infected.
    All of group B people got sick for a extended period of time.
    There were the same number of cancers with and without the vaccine.

    If I had a dog that got 6 shots of the rabies vaccine and never contracted the disease, would you even notice that it worked as designed, year after year?
     
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    All medicines are proven by clinical trials.
    Rarely, if ever, do they show the same results for everyone in the trial, and even more varied in the general population.
    This is what conspiracy believers seem to miss.
    It’s like car manufacturing. You test and test, but when you start mass production, some things don’t go the same way as the testing results.
    The idea is to produce the best possible product for the most users in both situations.
    And yet, conspiracy believers like to point to a few anecdotal examples of what they believe the general population is experiencing
     
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    Actually, even though my sister and brother-in-law were fully vaccinated, they've both had Covid.

    The fact checkers and social media folks can say all they want but even the WHO has reported a dramatic uptick in cancers worldwide.
     
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    but they haven't isolated the causes, and there are plenty of candidates. tho think that it has to be a vaccine is to not look at all the data.
    to think that a vaccine is a problem simply requires more research. to think that the vaccine is worse than the disease is simply ignoring reality.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Correlation is not causation.
     
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    If it were like car manufacturing then people wouldn't be shouted down for questioning things like the ratio of car recalls to drug recalls.... ;)

    Of course, MY experience is probably biased by being vaccinated prior to the first Gulf War..... :unsure:
     
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    there is concern that processed foods are causing more cancers in younger people, but let's focus our blame on covid vaccines