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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

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  1. bisco

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    Earlier in this thread I characterized those metrics as having exponential growth and more recently @mjoo has. That turns out to be incorrect.

    From the 16 WHO situation reports so far, growth rates are greater than linear but less than exponential. Excel spreadsheets let you click easily among models. Second-order polynomial gives eerily good fits. Frankly I have rarely encountered biological data with R^2 above 0.999

    Hasten to add two things. Data are only as reported and under reporting cannot be excluded. Either from bean counters being overwhelmed, or darker motivations.

    But super tight models allow one to see when a corner has been turned (slowing of rates) at a very early moment.

    Finally, other sources have used the term 'logistic' and that as a model does not fit what we have so far. But it is exactly what would show that infection chains are getting broken. That is exactly what one hopes for. I may have Sigmaplot (TM) software* floating around somewhere, and it has enough horsepower for logistic fitting.

    (*you really don't want to know how much that horse costs at retail)
     
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    corona_010.jpg corona_020.jpg

    WARNING: Do not use this formula.

    total_cases = 131 (day*day) - (147 * day) + 499

    day - starts from 01/22/20 as day 0​

    A second order polynomial has no upper limit which means:
    WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!​

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Thank you Captain Obvious.
    History has proven that to be the case for everyone so far. I think I missed your point.
     
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    I found this interesting. HUGE discrepancy between the modelers and the officially reported numbers.

     
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    two babies being investigated for possible invitro contagion
     
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    wow, the ophthalmologist i mentioned in post #76, dr. li wenliang, who was threatened by the government for reporting an unknown respiratory illness back in december,

    has died from coronavirus.

    as awful as that is, a bigger concern is that he didn't die from the coronavirus
     
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    Li Wenliang, Chinese doctor who sounded alarm on coronavirus, has died - CNN

    If so.....Headline: fail
     
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    Caught a squib on that this AM.

    Don't remember the source but since I spend I usually spend the first few minutes doing a stare-and-compare between CNN and FNN.....I'm thinking that it was one of those two.

    This thing is starting to impact the Chinese economy, and those ripples will do what ripples do.....so Poo is BUSY.

    Gas has already tumbled past $1.85 hereabouts
     
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    Hey, they're already blaming their economic slowdown/recession on the coronavirus. Somebody has decided not to let a good crisis go to waste.
     
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    That is taking it a little far.
    I think it is perfectly reasonable to contribute the slowdown occurring NOW and over the span of this outbreak to the virus.
    Considering the number of cities and businesses that have been closed down, I don't see any way this couldn't have a downward affect on their economy.
     
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    Openly agreed, but posting as One Guy on The Internet I don't feel like I need to moderate my opinion as carefully as a widely-watched/read pundit in the media, and I can only hope this is implicitly understood.
     
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    +1

    We're a forum....not a quorum... ;)
     
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    I am not surprised.
    Most Chinese goods coming to the US are shipped on the passenger planes that are no longer flying. That has got to hurt the economy somewhat.
     
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    It was a math joke. The quadratic formula as a prediction would suggest eventually we’d all get the virus. Other formula could predict more realistic outcomes.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Last I heard, xi xi’s statement read, “anyone providing misinformation (read: information) would suffer severe punishment.

    Back to our eye doc
     
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    Many plastics from China carry the Cancer warning label. As far as I am concerned, less toxic dollar-tree items in our country, the better.
     
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    I also read that cargo ships are starting to be affected. Here is one of the articles about it :

    Global shipping has been hit by the coronavirus - CNN
     
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