SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

back to work?
the aerospace union just requested volunteers from our group of 450+ to report to work next Sunday - here in SoCal. Top 12 qualified made the list. You can't let a Boing777 just sit in place w/out its own mass doing possible harm. Same holds true with MOST heavy equipment. Heck - even true w/ people. Gosh - looks like the honey-do's will will have to wait.

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I know but sometimes a story can sound 'too good to be true.' As we've moved to self-selected, news sources, we have lost the fact-checkers that would separate factual from faux. So I don't subscribe to the New York Times, Washington Post, or Wall Street Journal because in 2016 they showed themselves to be less than factual. Breitbart, FOX, and OANN are worse, shoot-on-sight. So choose your sources carefully not because 'never said it was gospel' but to preserve your personal credibility. For example, I've had to 'ignore user' l_itesong, R_obH, and s_piderman because their postings:

Protect your credibility as this is not a list anyone should wish to join.

Bob Wilson

 

interesting to re read the timeline here. looks like this date (02/29/20) is about when public health officials began warning the powers that be.

 

Explanation of mathematical modeling of the pandemic in comic form.
A Comic Strip Tour Of The Wild World Of Pandemic Modeling | FiveThirtyEight

 

"li wenliang, the 34 year old ophthalmologist who first reported the disease, died after receiving antibodies, antivirals, antibiotics, oxygen and having his blood pumped through an artificial lung."

Note that this now-famous Chinese doctor died on February 7.

The first school closure in my area was Feb 27. Other school closures started very rapidly from there, though didn't become county-wide until 12 days later.

 

well, you folks got hit first, no?

 

Yes, we were first, making us more acutely aware of federal absences, interference, denial, lack of preparation, and dismantling of previous preparations.

Not that local response was ideal either.

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agreed, it's been a fiasco from every corner. but i don't want to get into the politics in this thread.

 

An interesting timeline:

 

i think they can go even faster if they get more testing.

 

wonder what % of your area would go hysterical if your govener would have immediately locked down the state. Hindsight: it's like armchair quarterbacking.
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You don't need hindsight. People just need to open their eyes to what has already happened elsewhere.
The trick is, they have to do so with clarity and reason, not hyperbole and spin.

 

I deny that criticizing the dismantling of prior federal response teams and disease surveillance programs and ignoring the outcomes of deliberate practice exercises, followed by 'nobody ever thought this could happen', amount to armchair quarterbacking. It is pointing out the recent abandonment of previous preparedness.

Similar applies to the early federal prohibition on local virus testing using NIH(*) tests.

(*) NIH: Not Invented Here

 

i'm not sure free countries can accomplish what china 'might' have done.

 

'Nother nice planet on the map, for anybody who'd like to visit a place where every last piece of replicating chemistry that exists there, if any, will be 100% novel to your immune system.

Of course it also won't be adapted to invade you, right away. So, there's that.

 

Neurologic Manifestations of Hospitalized Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019 in Wuhan, China | Infectious Diseases | JAMA Neurology | JAMA Network

 

nothing would surprise me. long term health ramifications are an unknown concern at this point. and like everything else, probably varies patient by patient.

 

read a couple interesting stories about these emco machines that filter your blood instead of letting your lungs do it.
a few interesting success stories out of arizona and seattle, for people on the verge of death.