ScanGauge II on a Prime, still useful?

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-Current)' started by Mark57, Jul 6, 2017.

  1. Mark57

    Mark57 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2009
    2,692
    2,320
    0
    Location:
    covid hell
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    I'm addressing this mostly to current Prime owners that were also previous Gen owners that actively used a SanGauge II for hypermiling, like me. See my sig for my mpg exploits.

    I currently drive a 2010 Prius II and have a 2017 Prime Advanced on order. My trusty ScanGauge II has old version 3.17 firmware. I can send it in and update it to version 4.x for $25.00 and gain more current Xgauges and code pulling ability, but I'm wondering if it's really that useful on a Prime Advanced with the info that it now provides?

    I'm very aware of and impressed with some of the Smart phone based ODB scanners but I don't own them, I do own a ScanGauge. I appreciate your time and responses.
     
    priuscatprimeguy likes this.
  2. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    39,183
    27,879
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Oklahoma City, USA?
     
  3. Mark57

    Mark57 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2009
    2,692
    2,320
    0
    Location:
    covid hell
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Yes, Sir.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  4. E-GINO

    E-GINO Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2009
    154
    161
    2
    Location:
    Rome, Italy
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    N/A
    I am in a similar situation: I own two Scangauge II which I use with satisfaction with my Lexus RX450h (MY2010), In prevision of the arrival of my Prime, sometime ago I sent both units to Germany for the firmware upgrade (basically my Scangauges mothernoard was replaced with a new one) so I am ready.
    Let's hope that some Xgauge guru will discover the Prius Prime specific Xgauges soon (SOC and AMP primarily, but also BATTERY TEMP and MG1/2 TEMP are to be considered.
     
    Mark57 likes this.
  5. Mark57

    Mark57 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2009
    2,692
    2,320
    0
    Location:
    covid hell
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Thanks. I suppose I can still monitor SOC and a few others on the Prime just like I do on my 2010. If nothing else, it will allow me to pull more recent codes.
     
  6. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    39,183
    27,879
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Aren't even the built in scan gauge functions subject to being out of date, with a new gen? Not sure. (n)
     
  7. Mark57

    Mark57 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2009
    2,692
    2,320
    0
    Location:
    covid hell
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    That's exactly what I'm wondering and why I was looking for someone that's done this to let us know. I'm leaning towards updating just to get the new codes ability for all vehicles. I'm sure the Xgauges are new. I wish ScanGauge would publish a firmware change list.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  8. Mark57

    Mark57 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2009
    2,692
    2,320
    0
    Location:
    covid hell
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    I've decided to send it in and update its firmware.
     
  9. joachimz

    joachimz Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2012
    445
    599
    17
    Location:
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    I have the Carista OBD adapter (bought to update the settings), and then bought the app "OBD Fusion" as it got the best of ratings on the App store ... while it does communicate with the Carista, some parameters work, others don't. Have not had the time to get into the detail yet though but if my interest peeks again (and i have the time) i might tackle it again
     
    Mark57 likes this.
  10. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    10,992
    10,606
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Mark57 and Mendel Leisk like this.
  11. Skylis A

    Skylis A Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2013
    1,144
    856
    0
    Location:
    Maine
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    What about the battery current? Where Bta would be back on my Prius c, the Bta X-gauge shows up as blank on my Prime, so which should I use? As far as I can tell, my firmware is up to date version 4.43
     
    #11 Skylis A, Sep 17, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2017
  12. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    10,992
    10,606
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    #12 Prodigyplace, Sep 17, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2017
  13. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    10,992
    10,606
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    deleted - dupe
     
    #13 Prodigyplace, Sep 17, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2017
    priuscatprimeguy likes this.
  14. priuscatprimeguy

    priuscatprimeguy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    2,730
    2,626
    0
    Location:
    Farmington Hills, Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    pay attention! when the three dots rotating in the far upper right side are showing up and continue to rotate just hit refresh on your browser. your post will show up eventually:D
     
  15. Skylis A

    Skylis A Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2013
    1,144
    856
    0
    Location:
    Maine
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
  16. WilDavis

    WilDavis Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2014
    2,424
    2,073
    49
    Location:
    Top RH Corner of RH Coast on L side of The Pond
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    II
    When I found my second ScanGauge-II (which I purchased on eBay) had old firmware, I called Linear-Logic to arrange an upgrade, and LL said just give us your mailing address, and we'll send you a new chip for free! …so I did just that they did just that, and within a couple of days, arrived in the mail a new board, which was a doddle for me to swap (my original training was in electronics, and I was quite familiar with small circuit-boards and soldering etc. etc.) - so here's a shout out for Linear-Logic! So both of my SG-IIs now have the latest firmware and LL didn't charge me a single cent! ;)(y)
     
    Prodigyplace likes this.
  17. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    10,992
    10,606
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I do that and occasionally it double posts anyway :(
    Thanks for the reminder though.
     
    priuscatprimeguy likes this.
  18. Skylis A

    Skylis A Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2013
    1,144
    856
    0
    Location:
    Maine
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    On my Prius c, I set my ScanGauge II sleep even to COM, so that when I keep the car running, it would stay on, and would turn off only after I pressed the power button on the car.

    With my Prime, ScanGauge II does not turn off when sleep event is set to COM. Changing the sleep event to VOLT, ScanGauge II will sometimes turn off when my Prime goes into EV.

    Anyway to fix this other than getting into the habit of physically connecting/disconnecting the cable? I worry that one day I'll forget and it'll drain the 12V battery.

    Also, any word on how to get the traction battery voltage? (Gen4 codes didn't work for me)
     
  19. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    10,992
    10,606
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
  20. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    11,831
    4,560
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Prime is quite different from PHV. None of the handy pids on my scangauge worked on the upgrade. Sadly, the ones haven't been made available yet either. Knowing things like motor RPM and battery temp can be very informative.
     
    jcburns and Prodigyplace like this.
Loading...