1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Science is our friend

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by pilotgrrl, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. pilotgrrl

    pilotgrrl Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2017
    891
    1,796
    0
    Location:
    Chicagoan in TX
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,801
    48,998
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    it starts with our schools. as tochatihu will tell us when he logs in. but changing the system is difficult at best. this is a long term systemic problem, of which trump is but a fly in the ointment.
     
    KennyGS, RCO and pilotgrrl like this.
  3. pilotgrrl

    pilotgrrl Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2017
    891
    1,796
    0
    Location:
    Chicagoan in TX
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    I pity school children here in Texas, many of whom haven't been taught about evolution. They have a lot to catch up with when they get to college.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
    RCO likes this.
  4. RCO

    RCO Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2016
    3,709
    5,183
    0
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I would not wish to offend any religion, but my personal opinion is that many ancient rites and rituals stem from a scientific attempt to teach a moral code to the great unwashed back in those times. Nowadays, these historical unproven theologies seen to stifle scientific evidence whenever there is confliction. As I said, I respect everyone's right to their faith and apologise if I have unintentionally given offence.
     
  5. drysider

    drysider Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    823
    332
    1
    Location:
    Liberty Lake WA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Four
  6. frodoz737

    frodoz737 Top Wrench

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    4,297
    2,347
    33
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    They teach evolution here...so no pity required. Both my kids were schooled here with Son starting last semester for his BS after Christmas break.
     
  7. RCO

    RCO Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2016
    3,709
    5,183
    0
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
  8. frodoz737

    frodoz737 Top Wrench

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    4,297
    2,347
    33
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Bachelor of Science...Major Forestry, Minor Fire Management.
     
    RCO likes this.
  9. drysider

    drysider Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    823
    332
    1
    Location:
    Liberty Lake WA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    It can be difficult to understand the dichotomy in science. Scientists like to have the answers, but, in fact, if you look closely enough, nothing is certain. It is the uncertainty that makes science interesting (and challenging). Even things like conservation of mass-energy and increasing entropy are constantly being challenged, and, so far, confirmed. But there isn't a scientist worth their salt who wouldn't want to be the one to find an exception. A Nobel Prize would just be the beginning.
     
    RCO and bisco like this.
  10. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    8,995
    3,507
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    As a nation, US remains a science and technology leader. Other nations increasingly arise.

    There are people turning their backs on aspects of science, but I think it remains narrow. OK, personally sad that many in US don't groove with evolutionary biology. Or strong human effects on Earth as a system. But we seem to manage anyway. Maybe the brakes are dragging on one wheel.

    My larger concern is that the vast majority of people who do accept science as most accurate and useful description of 'the world' don't know much about it. Yet it is both fascinating and not that difficult to move one's understanding up a notch.
     
    pilotgrrl likes this.
  11. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    8,995
    3,507
    0
    Location:
    Kunming Yunnan China
    Vehicle:
    2001 Prius
    I've had some great teachers. Also (in early schooling) a few who were weak on science; sometimes amusingly so. Those latter did not impede me, but I suppose they do impede a lot of people.

    I'd hope to 'upgrade the fleet' of teachers in first 8 years of schooling. Could not tell you how to do it though. If it's political to ask for better funding for public schools at those levels, then I'll not ask here.
     
    pilotgrrl likes this.
  12. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,801
    48,998
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    science marches on. you cannot not stop it, but only change the velocity.
     
    RCO likes this.
  13. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    11,696
    11,317
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    In the US, Bachelor of Science is abbreviated BS.
     
  14. RCO

    RCO Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2016
    3,709
    5,183
    0
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    In UK, bulls**t is abbreviated to BS. Just sayin'!
     
    bisco and Prodigyplace like this.
  15. Salamander_King

    Salamander_King Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2015
    10,964
    8,840
    0
    Location:
    New England
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    That's also true in US academia. BS, MS, PHD... Bulls**t, More s**t, Piled Higher and Deeper! :LOL:
     
    Mark57, bisco and Prodigyplace like this.
  16. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    11,696
    11,317
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I thought PHD was post hole digger :D.

    What do you call a BA or an MBA?
     
    Salamander_King likes this.
  17. pilotgrrl

    pilotgrrl Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2017
    891
    1,796
    0
    Location:
    Chicagoan in TX
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Artist and Master Artist

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
  18. frodoz737

    frodoz737 Top Wrench

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    4,297
    2,347
    33
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    ...as in Political Science.
     
  19. KennyGS

    KennyGS Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2014
    1,243
    1,044
    1
    Location:
    Keystone State
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    Parents are the problem. Their influence on their children mean everything. It’s to no one’s surprise when parents who are involved end up with a successful child.
     
  20. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    11,696
    11,317
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    But then MA would be Master Artist. That can't be right!