Shingles vaccination

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  1. ChapmanF

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    I'm guessing there's a joke involved in connecting article 134 to this thread, and I'll figure it out eventually ....
     
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    This made me immediately think of the Nuremberg defense, which I really hope everyone is familiar with.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    You’re only obligated to follow LAWFUL orders.
    Things get murky sometimes…especially when those giving the orders are in cognitive decline or otherwise mentally deficient.

    Article 92 covers orders AND regulations….SO…
    They CAN make you take a drug that’s barely out of the experimental stage and recently rushed through a very abbreviated approval process to benefit a politically connected company with billions (trillions?) of bucks changing hands.

    THAT’s why elections are sorta important.
    HOWEVER (comma!) in these kinder, gentler times they don’t charge anti-vaxxers in DOT.mil with an article 92 beef.
    As stated earlier, they just ADSEP them.

    One of the many benefits of a professional, all volunteer military.

    FUN FACT….
    The annual flu shots are also MANDATED by regulation.
    When I was in the reserves, there were folks who were pretty artful in dodging the shot, and we did ADSEP some of the more stupid of these.
    When I was knocking holes in the ocean it was a lot easier.
    The little yellow cards don’t lie….and they used phrases like “nobody goes home until they see the doc!”
    Although, you could always get a “hook-up” from the doc unless one of you is a jerk....which is why you NEVER EVER piss off a corpsman, a yeoman, or a “culinary specialist.”

    I always just got the shot, including the Rona shot…
    BUT(!!) I also remember an oath that I took that applies to forcing civilians to take them.
     
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    Ah, joke's on me. I see that 134 is quite a general article (the General Article, even), and it only just so happens that like six of the first Google hits about it are specifically focused on adultery.

    Not sure how deeply I want to think about why.
     
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    I've heard some stories. Not many, mind you, but I'm sure there are plenty.
     
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    The letter of reprimand is linked within that article.

    If the events unfolded the way it says, there is a strong appearance that she was engaged in throwing spaghetti at walls to see what would stick, and throwing one handful at a time, where the commander would have preferred she at least decide what spaghetti she was going to throw and do that once.

    One gray bit I do see is it appears she had joined the clinical trial two days before the second order was forwarded to her.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    LOVE the fact that she was……a ‘diversity’ ossifier.
     
  9. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Four years in the Marines, my needle-phobia showed up when I 'passed out' in bootcamp medical screening from a TB test shot. So I dealt with it by warning the medical staff and sometimes sitting down for a few minutes while my symptoms passed. At age 72, my needle-phobia remains a life long quirk. Other than avoiding allergy meds, not a big deal.

    BTW, I 'requested mast', a Navy/Marine practice that lets you meet with the unit commander. Then I learned 'payback is a Muther ...' and got orders for Okinawa. The remaining three years I learned there is a 'favor network' that allows enlisted Marines to get ahead. The key being to not fork you brother Marine. There is a chain of command but there are ways to get by.

    It costs a lot to move a Marine to their next duty station. You don't want them to arrive and go straight to 'sick call.' We don't want to ship casualties when their service is needed. Worse, you don't want a highly infectious, break-through, virus to take out the Marine and the corpsman who first sees you. For example, we had a dummy Marine catch a STD but hid his symptoms until a rash. The corpsman saw him and started cursing as the corpsman self administered the first shot and then the dummy. Everyone in the unit who had worked with the dummy was reminded about the STD symptoms and requested to avoid the usual places during their self-quarantine.

    A Marine, we were expected to serve and not go directly to sick call and risk the corpsman too!

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Just the opposite for me. A Navy Corpsman was drawing blood and, with the needle in my arm and no blood filling the tube, he started to move the needle around under my skin. I told him in no uncertain terms that if he continued doing that I would lay him flat out on the deck. He listened and withdrew and reinserted the needle. Ever since that episode I have to watch whenever any needle pierces my skin, either to draw blood or to get a shot. Doesn't faze me in the least, but I have to watch.
     
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    Venipuncture is an art, like thr ability to draw or sing. Some people got it, and some just can't. Unfortunately, there are many healthcare workers out there who are getting paid to draw blood, but are really bad at it.
     
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