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So, just how left/right/authoritarian/libertarian are we?

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by FourOhFour, Mar 31, 2006.

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  1. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    So how did the owners of that web site determine how all those famous dead people would have answered the questions? Like much of the internet, I think that site is hogwash.
     
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    Wow, I'm economic +3.63, social +1.95. The way I think, I think, I'd be much further to the left socially, but I'm hanging in good company with Tony Blair, Howard and Berlusconi. No wonder so many people have asked my to run for mayor! Fun stuff.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Apr 1 2006, 10:53 PM) [snapback]233600[/snapback]</div>
    It's called "humor" Daniel. You know, those fun, unscientific, things people tend to do to entertain themselves...

    ...live long and prosper!

    [​IMG]
     
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    a look from the Right side:

    The trashing of America has reached new heights with the affirmation in all three branches of the United States government of everything that pulls down a nation and a denial of everything that makes a nation great.

    The great Russian writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn once wrote this warning, "To destroy a people you must first sever their roots."

    Socialist Democrats and liberals throughout our government have made it clear that the foundations, the roots that have undergirded this nation are no longer valid. Character no longer matters, honesty is not a value worth protecting, and corruption is not only tolerated but embraced throughout our government.

    Perhaps Bill Clinton says it best, "We are redefining in practical terms the immutable ideals that have guided us from the beginning." - President Bill Clinton, Nov. 8, 1997

    American politics is no longer about Democrats, Republicans, or Independents ... It's not a fight between the Liberal Left and the Christian Right ... It is about what America is. It's a war of competing ideas and worldviews. It's about Right vs. Wrong. Truth vs. Untruth. It's a conflict over beliefs and values, over the ideas that will rule society. It's about the direction we want this country to go in the future. It's about the world we leave for our children. It's about what god we acknowledge or whether we acknowledge any god at all. It's about the same struggle man has gone through since the beginning of time, the struggle between good and evil.

    As the balance of power continues to swing towards a Godless agenda, Americans will be increasingly forced to adopt a new perspective of who we are: one based not on immutable ideals and values, truth, justice, personal freedom and the Constitution of the United States,
    rather one based on relative values, deceit, unequal justice, Marxism and a redefined globalist Constitution.

    On one side, you have people who believe in living by a set of divinely inspired moral absolutes - or, at the very least, they believe that following such a moral code represents the best way to avoid chaos and instability.

    On the other side, you have people who insist that morality is relative and simply a personal decision. Any attempt to enforce a set of standards is viewed as oppression.

    Many liberals believe that efforts to adhere to and enforce behavioral rights and wrongs is simply the powerful in society attempting to force their views and judgments on the "victims" of society, rather than what it is: an attempt to maintain the standards that have evolved and survived throughout human civilization and which produce a quality life.


    The Battle for the Hearts and Minds of America
    Which will it be?
    Pro-Adultery
    Pro-Drugs
    Pro-Corruption
    Pro-Deception
    Pro-Marxist
    Pro-Socialism
    Anti-Family
    Freedom from Religion
    Hatred

    Fidelity in Marriage
    Clean Living
    Integrity
    Honesty
    Free Markets
    Personal Freedom
    Pro-Family
    Freedom of Religion
    Love
     
  5. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    I don't understand the viewpoint that people who choose to believe in something other than a christian god are automatically evil.
     
  6. larkinmj

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    My political compass
    Economic Left/Right: -6.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36

    I am pleased that I am in the same quadrant as Gandhi, rather than with Stalin, Hitler, or (my god) Milton Friedman.

    Michael Larkin
    2006 Prius, Barcelon Red, #7
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Apr 5 2006, 04:24 PM) [snapback]235543[/snapback]</div>
    This is truly earthshaking stuff. All the problems of mankind distill to this simple, mindless equation. All the difficulties of diverse culture, disparate education, disparate affluence, and the vast incomprehensible tapestry of six billion teeming human personalities are all neatly and completely solved in this compact list. It's Nobel Prize calibre.

    There's just one trifling flaw in it: it doesn't resemble life on THIS planet.

    Just look. All the towering icons of the Right (Gingrich, DeLay, Abramoff, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Libby, to mention only a few) have proven themselves deeply pro-adultery, pro-corruption, pro-deception, anti-family and consumed by hatred of anything or anyone who disagrees with them. Conversely, many icons of the Left (Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, Al Franken, Gore Vidal, etc.) have proven themselves irrefutably pro-integrity, pro-honesty, pro-family, pro-personal freedom and very much in love with humanity and life.

    It's a complicated world: this one that we live on. Full of inconsistency, nuance, uncertainty, a billion shades of gray tinted a trillion rainbow hues. Not a world that bears a molecule of resemblance to the dull monochrome world that equation sums up.

    And the dead, colorless world that equation sums up is a world I would fight very hard to avoid winding up in.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(airportkid @ Apr 5 2006, 11:15 PM) [snapback]235665[/snapback]</div>
    To the point and poetic, great read :)
     
  9. DocVijay

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    Actually less Right and Authoritarian than I expected. I figured I'd be much higher on both! But since this obviously a VERY scientific and accurate test, I must be where I am.


    Anyway, I agree with Dr. Fusco. Lot's of people assume that all "rich doctors" are far right Republicans, but they're not. I don't think there are significantly more than in any other slice of society. As is for him, my wife and I would benefit nicely if we both voted Republican, but for some reason she still insists on voting Democrap.

    I also had an issue with the limited answers. THere were quite a few statements I neither agreed nor diasagreed with. But I guess it would make it that much harder for the test to be "accurate."
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Apr 5 2006, 03:24 PM) [snapback]235543[/snapback]</div>
    Isn't it curious how the neo-conservatives, having taken complete control of all three branches of government, continue to assert that "liberals" are still running everything and destroying the country? Wake up and take a look around, folks. The Democrats were in charge in the 60's and they did a pretty good job of trashing the country. But today the Republicans are in charge and they are the ones trashing the country. Any complaints you got in 2006, it's Bush and his cronies you better blame. The only thing you can blame the Democrats for today is voting in favor of every one of Bush's assaults on freedom and the Constitution.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(airportkid @ Apr 5 2006, 11:15 PM) [snapback]235665[/snapback]</div>
    UNBELIEVABLE that a person could actually utter the above statement - has to be a recently college indoctrinated cool-aid drinker - Nothing personal Airport Kid and I may be totally wrong, but if I am correct I guarantee you will change you entire way of thinking once you are exposed to the real world for a while.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Apr 6 2006, 10:07 AM) [snapback]235788[/snapback]</div>
    Conversely, many icons of the Left (Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, Al Franken, Gore Vidal, etc.) have proven themselves irrefutably pro-integrity, pro-honesty, pro-family, pro-personal freedom and very much in love with humanity and life.
    Hmmm, I must have missed that one thanks [you]

    Yeah next time vote non partison... Vote Gumby for President! :)
    Both parties have their pros & cons
    whether you admit it or you dont.



    again, american politics is no longer about Democrats, Republicans, or Independents ... It's not a fight between the Liberal Left and the Christian Concervative Right ... But the NEA's can't understand that..

    It is about what America is. It's a war of competing ideas and worldviews. It's about Right vs. Wrong. Truth vs. Untruth.

    It's a conflict over beliefs and values, over the ideas that will rule society. It's about the direction we want this country to go in the future. It's about the world we leave for our children.

    It's about what god we acknowledge or whether we acknowledge any god at all. It's about the same struggle man has gone through since the beginning of time, the struggle between good and evil.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Apr 5 2006, 07:24 PM) [snapback]235543[/snapback]</div>
    Plagiarism is not a family value.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(airportkid @ Apr 5 2006, 11:15 PM) [snapback]235665[/snapback]</div>
    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Oh my, thanks, I needed that!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(imntacrook @ Apr 6 2006, 09:47 AM) [snapback]235802[/snapback]</div>
    Lots of unbelievable views in the world out there. I thought the far right had a monopoly on seeing the world in black and white, but apparently I was wrong on that too. BTW, a college kid probably won't get the cool-aid reference. (Google Jonestown)

    I always thought of myself as a centrist, since I grew up in a Republican family and then leaned left, particularly in environment and personal rights (nothing wrong with owning a non-assault gun, or with getting an abortion if you feel it's best), but on this poll anyway that's to the left with a good dash of libertarian. 180' from G. Bush, which does make sense. I do think it was a good idea to get rid of Saddam Hussein, but for crimes against humanity and crimes against nature, not the fabricated reasons Bush created. I can understand he wanted to protect the oil supply, particularly from someone who was taking it from the dollar standard (double threat to our current economy), but he should have at least listened to military leaders and not a bunch of draft dodgers on how to get the job done. Well, I best get off the soapbox.

    I wonder where John McCain would come out on this chart - I would've voted for him over most Democrats.

    nerfer
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nerfer @ Apr 6 2006, 11:58 AM) [snapback]235852[/snapback]</div>
    I see there is a link on the left that shows the major political players in the last election, however McCain isn't there. Interesting that Ralph Nader is almost the same as me - I don't think we have that much in common, and I would never vote for him.

    nerfer
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Apr 5 2006, 07:24 PM) [snapback]235543[/snapback]</div>
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FourOhFour @ Apr 6 2006, 12:47 PM) [snapback]235846[/snapback]</div>
    Priusguy04, if you are going to post garbage, at least do in your own words.
     
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    I think this whole left/right thing is a waste of time. Instead of facilitating meaningful discussion, we use it to stick labels on people and pretend to know what they think. Could we debate the issues, instead of each other?

    Humanity will never fly on just one wing, left or right. We need diversity, balance, and respect. Sadly, I can't seem to find these on Fred's menu any more.
     
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    Same quadrant as Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, and The Dalai Lama. Can't say I'm surprised. :)

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hybridTHEvibe @ Apr 6 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]235867[/snapback]</div>
    Or give proper credit to the actual author.
     
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    Is this good? I make Gandhi look like a fascist.