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Social Network Rant

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by twittel, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. twittel

    twittel Senior Member

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    I am not a member of any of the "social" networks including twitter, Facebook, MySpace, LinkedIn, etc. . According to a recent news release by FaceBook, users who check into a store or "like" a brand may soon find those actions re-transmitted on their friends' pages as a "Sponsored Story" paid for by advertisers. I'm fed-up with passive and direct advertising, forced media and all the other commercialism that tags along with these social networks. How about paying the users for some of that brand loyalty instead of commissions to FaceBook?

    I'm not sure that PriusChat qualifies as a full-fledged social network, but at least they don't (yet) sell my account ID out to advertisers.

    Happy Motoring,

    Tom​
     
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    I wonder if the vendor will select their quotes or if it's done automatically. If the latter, I think I will "like" a bunch of things I don't really like and then start posting a lot of reasons I don't like it. I'd like to see those quotes show up on my friends' pages.
     
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    You can't have it both ways, unfortunately... if you aren't going to pay for the service provided by a social network, then the company behind it is going to find a way to make money off you anyways - and that comes with advertising.
     
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    If you have an internet presence, you will have a footprint, so remember Google can pull it up to current/potential employers, spouses, etc.

    Googling yourself can be an eye opener. :eek:
     
  5. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    Facebook is not perfect, but whining about your privacy, when you failed to set the privacy settings that are available is fairly silly.

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  6. twittel

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    From what I've read in various news accounts and other persons experiences with social networks, "privacy settings are oftentimes ignored and/or compromosed. (I should have included that concept in my original rant.) As I read Facebook's fine print on your attachment, evidently they are going to sell user brand loyalty when possible; at least, according to the implications of the news article from Associated Press.

    Happy Motoring,

    Tom
     
  7. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    It is a slippery slope, once you allow them any ability to pass data to others, they frequently send more than you wish. By not allowing any, they are less confused by how much 'none' is.

    The settings to prevent this are available to all users, although they may not choose wisely.
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    It's always a good idea to go back and check your settings once in awhile, because I've found Facebook sometimes likes to set it back "for my convenience".
     
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    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    And 'new and improved' features that steal information even more aggressively are "not yet available" so I can't turn them off yet. George Orwell himself could not have designed a more nefarious system.
     
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    As a relative "young'in" (22) I am amazed at the level of detail of idiocy and that some of my university peers posted on myspace, facebook, and the tweetybird. Even in highschool people were posting way too much. This stuff will haunt them for ages. Employers look at it. Government clearance vetters look at it. Parents look at it.

    I do think my lack of involvement in any social networking sites along with constructive development of my name on the web helped me get my job after graduating. Nothing found on the googlywebs is better than a couple really bad things. Of course positive search results trump all. ;)

    As for those that participate and complain about privacy settings... really? It is a public social website. Anything revealed is revealed by you... publicly. If you want to keep it to your inner circle only, there is a check box for that. If you are active enough to continue posting, then you should be vigilant enough to change your security/privacy settings.
     
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    Remember: on social network websites like Failbook, the product being sold is YOU.
     
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    2K...I heard news accounts of how the "bad guys" will review FaceBook and other sites for information to help them; i.e. someone posts they'll be gone from the house so the bad guy will break-in and rob them. Or something like that. Of course this is true of the obits in newspapers regarding funeral times and dates.

    I can't go through life thinking everything's a conspiracy, but at the same time, I don't want to make it easy for the adware folks and bad guys.

    Happy Motoring,

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    Hahaha... I like and use Facebook. I'm pretty careful about what I post there.

    Would you rather use Orkut or Friendster? ;)
     
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    The same is true of commercial TV, along with many other media --
    The customer: advertisers.
    The product: your attention.
     
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    What about the privacy settings for those of us who have never used, signed up for, or consented to anything about F-book?

    I have received many F-book invites from friends and acquaintances. But the 'other people on Facebook you may know' list at the bottom of these messages, listing people who did not send similar invites, shows that they know too damn much about me. Based on how I know many of them, F-book has much more information than they are disclosing.

    Do I have any F-book privacy rights without actually signing up?
     
  18. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    "Rights" would be a legal issue. IANAL.

    You do not have a set of Privacy controls if you are not signed up.
     
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    caffeinekid Duct Tape Extraordinaire

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    I must be old school, but there is nothing I do on the internet outside of PM that includes accurate or much to the same degree generically "compilable" information. I even use screen names and locations that I have picked up from other forums- switching them out over time for new ones. So called "social networking" sites along with the likes of Google and prolific use of cameras used to be the subject of caveat in certain books. We often mused as to how such a world would come into fruition considering the MANY warnings we had. Well, we no longer have to wonder. On to the next chapter. Sorry for Gens Y and Z who appear to have had NO guidance from their parents on the matter.