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Sold Prius...Lexus CT 200h, Camry hybrid, Prius II?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by exbauer, Jun 28, 2011.

  1. exbauer

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    I sold my 2010 Prius IV solar and looking at the Camry hybrid or Lexus CT 200h. The Prius was great for what it was designed to do...high MPG, roomy interior, and gadgets. I still got that feeling when I walked up to my Prius that I liked the way it looked and was a great car. I only drove it 12,000 miles in a year and that was only because I did a big road trip. Otherwise it would probably be less than 10,000 a year. I was able to sell it at a great price and would like something that is quieter yet has good MPG.

    The only quails I have about the Prius is the rattle on the top driver side dash by the windshield, the road noise, and sensitive alignment. The dealer tried to fix the rattle, but never got rid of it. I did change my wheels to 17s and that has something to do with road noise. But, even with the 15s it was noisy. I had alignment issues and it might have been the roads. But, never had problems on my 2008 Prius or my other cars.

    So, now I am looking at getting a new car. I like the look of the CT. It is definitely smaller than the Prius, but handles a lot better. It is currently just me and I never sit in the back seat anyway. I am willing to trade a couple of MPG for better handling. I like a hatchback so I can keep the dog separate from the passenger cabin. The dash is kinda of dated, especially the look of radio. I don't like that the rear seat doesn't have an armrest. There is already a problem with the interior door panel of the passenger front coming apart...the grab handle coming apart when shutting the door. I wouldn't get all the gadgets in the Lexus because of the price like navigation or leather. I have to get a better feel of the NuLux. They is currently a waiting list. I could just wait it out until production picks up and CTs become more plentiful. There is currently a Lexus loyalty rebate of $1,000 and I qualify for that. I have a 1991 LS 400 sitting that is not safe to drive far distances let alone short ones. So, that makes it a little better than buying at MSRP.

    I found somebody selling a 2011 Camry hybrid with 300 miles on it. It has leather, moonroof, JBL...basically everything besides navigation. It is a steal. But, the Camry hybrid is too old of a car for me...no offense to anybody that has one. It does have a nice ride, quiet, smooth, and bigger engine. The MPG isn't that great...31 city/35 hwy. I have been reading the reviews and forums and people aren't able to do much better than the rated without hypermiling. And I am not a hypermiler. It is out of state and I would have to ship it in or fly out and drive it back.

    So, one option is to get a Lexus CT 200h with a moonroof, Camry hybrid with moonroof, leather, and JBL, or buy my parents 2010 Prius II with 8,000 miles at a great price and pocket the difference of selling my Prius and buying theirs. They don't have the dash rattle. The road noise would still be there. They would buy the Camry hybrid. Downsizing to something cheaper isn't such a bad idea though.

    Comments? Opinions?
     
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    Well, I wonder why you would go back to a Prius if you sold it for said reasons. Other than the dash rattle, which you said doesn't exist in your parent's Prius, you're still dealing with the road noise and alignment issues.... unless you've come to the realization that you can live with those issues. (On a side note, my Prius is fairly quiet while driving at highway speeds. Sure it's not Lexus quiet, but it is a lot quieter than the Accord I used to drive).
    Personally for me, if I were in your situation, I'll plunker down for the CT. Was never really a fan of the Camry, in any of its iterations.
     
  3. The Critic

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    Ever consider a Mini Cooper Clubman? Those get great fuel economy and would serve your needs and budget extremely well.
     
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    exbauer:
    Buy another Prius and put good rubber under it. This will help the noise issue. Fuel Max or good quality Michelin? You could have some good sound blocking work done on the wheel wells etc.. Hal
     
  5. exbauer

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    True about having having another Prius. But, having money in my pocket is better than forking out more money for a CT. And it pains me to pay MSRP for something. I could wait it out though.

    If I did get the Camry I would drive it for a couple of months and then drive it down to my parents. I do not picture myself as a Camry type of person. I should test drive a Prius with the stock 15s to check the road noise.

    I thought about the MINI. But, reliability is an issue for me. I like they way they drive and everything. I am just concerned for the maintenance.

    I am leaning more towards my parent's Prius and money in my pockets right now.
     
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    May be the real reason you sold is to capture some of the upside since Prius market values are so high.
     
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    my wife is no hypermiler and lifetime average on her hycam is 40 mpg.
     
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    That is true, I decided to capitalize on the market and get out of my Prius. But, cash in my pocket is a great thing. Or getting a car that I like better is also a great thing. I will have to read up more on the TCH.
     
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    Have you looked at the Lexus HS250h? Essentially the same drive train as the Camry Hybrid, but rated at better gas mileage and handles way better than the Camry. We have one and love it! It has all the gadgets the CT has but no hatch...
     
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    I would like something that is a hatchback. I like being able put larger things inside. I just went to look at the CT again, it is nice car. It is smaller in rear leg room and cargo room though. The interior is nice even with the NuLux (fake leather). But, at a base of $30,000 for a no frills model is making me think.
     
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    I had CarMax apraise my 11 Blizzard Pearl Prius II w/ 5k miles and was offered 20K. Garage kept. Still smells new. So, what's it worth?
     
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    Funny thing. They have 2010 28k miles for 26k. 2011 9k miles 28k
     
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    depends on the packages.
     
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    The Camry hybrid I was going to buy was sold. It was a private party sale and I went back and forth for too long. Somebody local bought it. At the end of the day I didn't want it, but it was too good of a deal to pass up. The decision has been made since it is sold.

    I called several Lexus dealer and put deposits down to be on their waiting list. Hopefully something will come in in the color and specs I want. I already passed on 2 black ones and a white one. I don't want black and the white was fully loaded. The waiting game continues.

    In the mean time I have been looking at the Honda Fit, Mazda3, and Fusion hybrid. I had the Escape hybrid in 2008 and found the interior too plastic. But, the Fusion hybrid interior is a lot better than my previous escape. It also gets better MPG than the Camry hybrid. Still seeing what is out there.
     
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    Sonata or Optima Hybrid?

    Also, if it's tyre noise, replace the stock eco tyres with something like the Michelin Energy MXV4 S8 or the Goodyear Assurance ComforTred.
     
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    I did take a Sonata hybrid out and the styling wasn't for me. I am leaning more to a hatchback since we all know how useful they are. I went to take a look at the Honda Fit and found a great used one. I am thinking long and hard if I want that or the Lexus CT. I know they are 2 different cars. But, I find that the Fit doesn't have Bluetooth integrated in the nav or a back up camera is disappointing.
     
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    Have you considered Prius v?
     
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    Try a Fiesta or Focus if you want a little hatch that gets great mileage.

    You can get a nicely equipped (around Prius 3 level) Fiesta for under 18k (6spd auto, bluetooth, sync) and get around 40+ on the hwy and 30+ in town. We are averaging 31.6 in ours with 80% city mileage. The few times I have hit the hwy and reset the avg. mpg it was sitting between 45 and 55mpg.
     
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    exbauer, I'm going to try to help you out. I can relate to your search because I too was mostly desiring a hatchback and four doors.

    First and foremost - going from a 2010 Prius to a conventional car will not ding you a couple MPGs or so. No, the difference is very big.

    Here in the SF Bay Area, I had no probs averaging about 45 MPG Winter and more like 49 MPG summer in my 2009 Prius.

    I bought a 2011 Accord Coupe 4 cyl - Avg city/hwy MPGs is right on the EPA at 26 MPG ....

    I'm pretty darn sure I could net about 52 MPG most of the time in a 3rd gen.

    You said you didn't like the Camry hybrid's economy at about mid 30's average. Even with new Civic, Elantra, Focus, Fiesta, whatever, wity average city/hwy fuel economy, guarantee you that you won't get much over 30 MPG average, definitely not 35 average city/hwy. The car mfrs all advertise hwy MPG only cause they know conventinal cars all nosedive on FE in the city.....

    ok, we got that out of the way.
     
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    I take it you want a semi-sporty hatchback, 4 door that gets 'pretty good' fuel economy.

    Don't know if you're into Mazda, but the Mazda3 hatchback has been pretty popular since 2004 and before that they had the Protege hatch. It's laid out nicely. Quite sporty inside. Engine sounds much like an 'economy' car (IOW, not like my Accord Coupe). Might want to check it out. Again, it's a 25 ish MPG car avg.

    I don't fit in a Fit, at 6'2", the driver's legroom and thigh support is non existent. Like sitting on a bench on my a** only.

    Fit has been highly recommended for quite some time as the 'kinda fun to drive', practical hatchback, 4 door choice. Sport model has sort of a firm ride though. I can attest for Honda's quality as I'm very satisfied with my Accord in its first 6 months. You'd probably net about low 30's average in a Fit. It's a pretty small car, but interior space is maximized.

    Toyota Matrix has never been recommended very much for being satisfying to drive. It gets the job done and is practical, but drives like a Corolla. Defintely a step down from a Prius. I find the Corolla / Matrix interior pretty barfy.

    Ford Focus hatch might be a way to go if you're into the first year model thing. Ford has a habit of introducing cars and taking them away after they don't sell very well. I'm almost certain Ford introduced a 4 door Focus hatch in about year 2000. I think they had a 2 door hatch for some years.

    You see how unique the Prius is? There is really nothing else like it now. Insight II is not a preferred or recommended choice even by Consumer Reports. I only drove one a couple miles. I see them around though.

    Don't have any easy answers for you. If I had my way, I'd like to see many more variants like Prius made by Honda and a few other mfrs with full hybrid drive trains.
     
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