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Sudden change in behavior ... 2008

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by ksor, Jun 14, 2022.

  1. ksor

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    My Prius from 2008 have 127.500 Km and suddenly the other day I noticed a change in behavior.

    Normally when I press the BUTTON it starts the gasoline motor - if not, it starts it when I go into Revers to drive out of my carport. That has been the 'normal behavior' as long as I remember.

    The other day the gasoline motor did NOT start before I have driven a while and had to accelerate a little and when I release the foot from the speeder the motor stopped right away - 'normally' it takes longer for the engine to stop. It kicks on again when I press for acceleration.

    One COULD say ... well, it acts just like a hybrid should do ! ... but then it had been acting wrong for more then 10 years !

    Maybe a little 'softer' shift between electric/gasloline could be adviceable ... or ?

    The machanic can't find any codes of failure at all - have you seen the same behavior or do you know, what could be wrong ?
     
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    It all just depends on how happy the car is with its temperature and the state of battery charge. All the behaviors you described happen sometimes. A Prius can be an interesting car to live with, but it knows what it's doing.
     
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    The change is SO DRAMATIC that it can't be that simple explanation.
     
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    I suspect I won't be able to persuade you otherwise.
     
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    Ha, ha, I'm not out for talking but a reasenable explanation for the dramatic change in behavior !
    I should have seen what you describe in the years I've had the car - but now it's far more dramatic.
     
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    Did you turn off the heater or AC recently?
     
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    Typically the car starts the engine to warm it up briefly; this ensures the engine is ready to work instantly when called on. However if the engine is already warm and the hv battery has a good charge, then it may stay off until you accelerate or increase speed enough.
     
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    Are you using a block heater?

    On our third gen, I'll sometimes plug in the block heater on ours for a couple of hours, if I need to move the car from garage to street, without starting up the engine, and don't relish doing it in 10 second "spurts". This reliably spoofs the car into allowing low-speed EV, thinking it's partially warmed.
     
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    Yeah, the AC, but just in confusion of what was happening ... it's on again ... and when it's turned on the gasoline motor often starts up ... and it confusies me a little because as I was told the AC compressor is electric driven ... so if the battery is charged there is no need for the gasmotor to start - right ?
     
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    if you have owned the car for a few years and this is completely new behavior, i would say there's probably something wrong.
    if you purchased it more recently, and haven't experienced all the seasonal climate changes, i'd say there's probably nothing wrong.
     
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    a/c will drain the battery fast enough to start the engine fairly quickly. and even so, a completely warmed up engine will start as soon as you begin accelerating, regardless of a/c use.
     
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    It's a little less "organic" than that. The car's computers likely are programmed to fire up the engine, depending on accessories running, and ambient temp, and coolant temp.

    And ultimately, all the electrical energy comes from the gas engine.
     
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    If it's so DRAMATIC then you need to give us some measurements? How many seconds goes by from pushing power button to before you hear engine starting? How many seconds do you consider normal? How many seconds do you consider abnormal... How do these numbers change based on weather temperature and engine temperature? With the heater on? With the AC on?

    As in what you're describing doesn't have any substance without accurate observations and measurements, especially if you don't have any warning lights or MPG issues or other symptoms. I agree with your mechanic that you're trying to fix something that's not broken and you're overthinking this... And we love to overthink here on PriusChat, but if you want us to overthink with you we need way more data.
     
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    As i said earlier - the car is now acting like a hybrid should act, but this implies, that the car has acted wrong the last 10 years !
    When none of you have experienced something like it, I think I'll have to see what the future brings concerning fuel consumption pr 100Km.
     
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    I'm sure we've experienced something like what you're experiencing but your description is lacking in specific details / lost in translation...
     
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    Ha, ha, yeah, why can't we all have DANISH as native language :) ...

    Thx for your time and I'll keep you updated on this case !
     
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    at least it's better and not worse. maybe your mpg's will go up (y)
     
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    There is always the possibility Toyota has a slightly different control algorithm for Northern Europe. On the other hand we get guys who owned a car for ten years and never saw the flashing immobilizer light when shutdown.