Teacher fired for bumper stickers

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  1. bretaz

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    we havn't heard the last of this.
     
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    I would have fired her for making the Prius look like crap. LOL
     
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    She definately had a few on there. I wish they would have made a list of all of them.
     
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    I simply would have taken it one step further and borrowed the piano the guys from "Top Gear" keep dropping on those "Morris Marinas" !
    It would cover the stickers up quite nicely:eek:!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-shNHaJigM]YouTube - Top Gear drops piano on Morris Marina! (HQ)[/ame]
     
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    What I can see:
    "I'm already against the next war"
    Something about teach and a peace sign, I think it's religious tolerance (letters of teach are made up of the cross, moon & star, star of David, etc.)
    "Have you drugged your kid today?"
    "The sociallyaware.com"
    "Religions are just cults with more members"
    "Different is not another word for wrong"
    "Non-judgment day is near" ?
    "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

    And it looks like one was covered up entirely, probably couldn't show it on the air.

    Then I crashed my adobe flash plug-in by trying to go back in the video too many times? had to restart it.

    On the driver's side:
    "No whining"
    "Military solutions are problems"
    "Jesus called, he wants his religion back"
    "Don't believe everything you think"
    "Jan 20, 2009, the end of an error"
    A rainbow/music notes thing

    I couldn't get them all and there were more on the right side of the car that weren't in focus.
     
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    I did not see a PC sticker in that whole mess. I agree a list of the stickers would have been interesting to see. I wonder if she had to keep adding stickers to cover up the key scrape marks? Maybe the PC legal defense fund can assist her with her lawsuit and provide representation? J/K

    Thanks nerfer for the list you made that in the time it took for me to post my reply!
     
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    I hate videos so went to Google and got a printed account of the story and it appears the issue isn't the stickers but one particular sticker. That makes more sense: that a clump of opinion nazis didn't like one of opinions and bitched about it and the school officials (who probably disliked the opinion too) pooled the three or four brain cells they had between the lot of them to reach a decision that will cost them more in money and lost credibility than if they'd acted with intelligence.

    Teacher: I Was Fired Over A Bumper Sticker - Phoenix News Story - KPHO Phoenix
     
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    I agree that her car looks bad with all those stickers.

    This is one of the reasons I do not put stickers on my car or wear my heart on my sleeve for all to see. I'm not directly concerned about being fired but more concerned about how my coworkers will react and work with me afterwards.

    On a funny note, I once worked with a teacher who had a bumper sticker reading "Question Authority". I tried to explain that in her class she is authority.
     
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    Well just reading the news report, the title of this post is

    "Teacher fired for bumper stickers" when the actual title should have been

    "Teacher fired for refusing school demand to remove bumper sticker offensive to student parents"

    Good judgement seems to have been the first casualty.
     
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    As long as the school would fire a teacher for verbal expression of political (including religious) opinion then it's correct to fire the teacher. A public school teacher is expected not to express their personal political opinions.

    It shouldn't matter whether it's offensive or not.
     
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    The vaunted concept of freedom doesn't seem to go very far sometimes. The disputed slogan - on her car, not in the classroom - was even on the side of the students.
     
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    The teacher has the right to those bumper stickers, but it was unwise beyond the first couple.

    Heck, the Prius itself is an inflammatory statement.

    And my POV is generally right-of-center.
     
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    Once again someone is claiming their first amendment rights have been violated, when they haven't. She is free to keep that sticker on her car, there is no FA violation. Should she lose her job over it? That's a separate issue that IMHO has nothing to do with the FA. There are standards that every employer expects and if you don't meet those standards then your job will be at risk.
     
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    Every one of those stickers - plus lots more! - are available through northernsun.com

    We get the catalog. I drool over them, all the time. I've been really restrained, though.
     
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    Boy, Arizona is sure some sick state, when you can fire someone over a bumper sticker. I hope she sues them, or damages and back pay. Like Arizona has some culture other than guns and discrimination.
     
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    She seemed ok with getting fired. Sometimes, we have to suffer the consequences if it is something you really believe in. Its not like she will have much trouble finding another teaching job.

    The irony is that I actually liked the one that they wanted her to remove. The parents complaining probably have kids that are on meds. Instead of worrying about what stickers are on teachers cars, they should spend more time being a parent.
     
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    i wish they had drugs when i was a kid.
     
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    Business can set dress codes and ask employees to not publicize a stand like NPR did to Juan Williams or the Chicagoland car dealer that fired the salesman that refused five times to remove his Packers tie after they beat the Bears.

    When you work for somebody, you are representing them and give up some self-expression.

    What I'd like to know is how much of an opportunity the teacher had to remove all/some of the bumper stickers in order to keep her job?

    While that teacher may be advocating students decide for themselves, can anyone look at her car and think she would be remotely neutral in her presentation?

    Firing was probably too far.
     
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