Tesla stock

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by bwilson4web, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. mikefocke

    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    Down 7% today.
    JP Morgan just out with a $90 price recommendation.
    Quality issue drumbeat continues.
    Competition continues press releases of their real soon now competitors.
    New solid state batteries backed by competitors may make Tesla battery factories obsolete in medium term press coverage.

    Interesting times we live in.
     
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  2. bisco

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    nonsense.

    none of that has anything to do with the stock price.

    jp morgan only cares about jp morgan, aka jamie gold diamonds
     
  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    CRAP! I've had mine since March 26, 2019 and suddenly mine has been reported as shit!

    With 32,147 miles, a news report has suddenly snuck out to my driveway to disrespect my car. After all, I have one in my hands and they have ... ?

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  4. bisco

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    rumours?
     
  5. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Problems with finding objective data.

    Bob Wilson
     
  6. Zythryn

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    I figured this fit the topic well.
    Some people continue to dismiss TSLA as an investment.

    Here are two videos I highly recommend, both are from investors talking about the reasoning behind investing in TSLA.
    The first, is very straight forward discussion by a couple of investors with well laid out logic.
    (473) Rob Maurer & Dave Lee on Tesla, Investing, and the Stock Market (Tesla Daily) - YouTube

    The second is by an investor in TSLA which shows a lot of a discussion by a professional fund manager. Warning, there is a lot of snark in this one;-)
    (473) Cathie Wood (ARK Invest): Why Tesla Stock Is Our #1 Pick - YouTube
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Rob Maurer has made many people A LOT of money, including me. Have listened to him almost since the beginning and am so thankful I did. An absolute must watch/listen to anyone that invests in Tesla or is thinking about it.
     
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    up 30 bucks
     
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    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    Interesting stock analyst Q&A

    Q: "...having many different businesses...does the company try to do too much for too many people?"
    A: "Yes...the valuation is way too high....no longer a small...startup."

    Q: "But, they've done a lot of stuff right - they've changed entire industries, right?"
    A: "We're talking 10 years ago...now has no moats, no special know-how, we believe the competition has caught up"

    <end of quotes, link is below>

    My comments:

    Amazing what some people think.
    But even more amazing is this was 5 years ago and how wrong they were.
    Proof of how wrong some analysts can be.
    No moat?
    Competition has caught up?

    This interview took place 5 years ago, not talking about Tesla, but about Amazon, then trading at $378 (over $3100 today).
    He thought the incumbent, Walmart online, was going to kill Amazon.
    Most notably, no-one was talking about AWS in this clip:

    Why Amazon is overvalued: Analyst

    Mike
     
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    listen to your trusted advisor :rolleyes:
     
  12. bisco

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    i have to say, i'm disappointed in cathy wood. she said tesla would drop below 600 (pre split) before taking off to 7,000.
    i'm still waiting :(
     
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    Mark57 2021 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD

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    Epitaph on your future memorial perhaps? Kidding
     
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    he who hesitates is lost :(
     
  15. bwilson4web

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    For speculators, today is S&P500 inclusion. Monday, TSLA will be part of the S&P500 and possibly the S&P100. But I didn't buy TSLA for S&P inclusion. I bought it to see Austin and Berlin come online with the new products: cyber truck and simi trailer along with more grid level storage and solar roofs.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    i read that tesla may have a huge drop from s&p inclusion, before the next run up.

    cash at the ready
     
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    Being added to the S&P500 forces large stock purchases by index funds and ETFs. The law of supply and demand says that the stock will rise, not drop. But what do I, a lowly engineer, know about investing?

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    more than me, obviously :cool:
     
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    There is some question about this.
    Yes, the index funds need to buy TSLA at the end of the day today.
    However, some of the runup lately may be suppling a pool of TSLA shares that the index funds will be buying from.

    It is explained in detail in this video: (475) TSLA, Dark Pools, and the Closing Cross (Tesla Stock S&P 500 Analysis) - YouTube
     
  20. bwilson4web

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    • SHORT - expecting the TSLA price to be locally high, use your margin account (must be set up early,) to SHORT sell TSLA stock. When the price drops (if it drops,) close out your margin and take profits.
    • LONG - the TSLA inclusion for the main S&P500 will start between today, Friday, and be there on Monday. But there may some 'slop' that avoids an S&P500 squeeze. But on Monday, January 4, we'll get the Q4 production and delivery numbers. This is typically a 'blow-out' event. I would expect a local minimum on TSLA the first weeks of March.
    For what it worth, I'm neither buying nor selling my TSLA as I'm long-term, long.

    Bob Wilson
     
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