Tesla stock

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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Now that the S&P500 buzz is toning down, my expectation is the TSLA price can fall to $480-550. The low $480 was the price the first of October 2020, the end of Q3 2020. I doubt it will happen but I needed a floor with some basis of estimate.

    My higher $550 price assumes others like me will 'carpe diem'. We know in two weeks, January 4, Tesla will release the Q4 2020 production numbers and China has been busy. About 5-6 weeks later, we'll get the annual financial numbers and they should be awesome. Austin and Berlin production predictions should be credible. Q2 2021 should be awesome.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Now that Tesla is at the certain level, what else is there in the battery space?
    Lithium?
    Nickel?
    Manufacturing tehnology?
    Anode materilas.

    I have two companies that make more than 60% of my portfolio:
    - Talga
    - Nano One

    Talga I don't need to introduce, just watch Limiting Factor on YT.

    Nano One is an interesting one, I think I first hear about them on Global Lithium Podcast (Joe Lowry). Last week they announced they are in evaluation agreement with an American based multinational auto manufacturer and stock just took off, probably because every one is thinking it's Tesla. But if you take a closer look at what they are trying to make it's very aligned with what Tesla is trying to do, so I'm not too worried even if they are not talking to Tesla, I just like the direction they are getting into.

    What are they doing?
    - Single nano crystal cathodes with a process that don't demand metal sulfates & lithium hydroxide, but can get away with cheaper to make materials (metal salts, an Li Carbonate).
    - Focus on three cathodes: LFP, Lithium Nickel Manganese (LNM) and NMC (8:1:1)
     
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    The better half wants me to sell her Tesla Leather tote (think it was ~$290is & since she's never used it - i got on line and found a nice segway to this thread, & Tesla merch;

    shirt.jpg

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    my partner bought 10 shares last august for 16k. he has made 25k in less than 5 months
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Well this is a surprise:
    • $816.04 at close today
    • $829.50 after hours snapshot
    Apparently the 'late comers' are in a bidding war. I don't have facts and data but suspect a lot of shallow, financial analysts have finally gotten a clue. But I'm more interested in the Q4 2020 financials. Seeing the Austin and Berlin building progress, their early production can be throwing gasoline on a fire.

    One speculation is the S&P 500 tracking funds have finally realized they have to buy TSLA stock to be true to the S&P 500 ratios. Forced to buy TSLA, they are bidding the stock price to unexpected high values.

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    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    According to Rob Maurer (Tesla Daily podcast) SP500 funds had to buy exactly on very near the date Tesla became part of the SP500 last month. Waiting a couple of weeks would not track to the index.

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    I had seen that one too but left with impression the exact date of adding TSLA has some flexibility. I am not a stock analyst but I suspect an option to buy future TSLA shares may have been an alternate approach. This use of an option would stretch out the stock purchase and lead to the current "squeeze" forcing function.

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    The naysayers are still saying, "the bubble hasn't yet burst" .... same with the national debt, but sure - "what goes up ......."
    That doesn't mean if and when it finally happens, the naysayer is a genius.
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    'another bear switches sides'

    'gm introduces new logo, in hopes of deflecting from their lack of competitive product'

    'cathy wood hits grande slam after tesla with roku, sq, crsp and bidu'

    'nhtsa decares tesla sudden acceleration to be user error in every case'
     
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    Source: Tesla’s sudden accelerations were user error, US government says - The Verge

    The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has ended a year-long review of claims that some Tesla vehicles were accelerating without warning, saying there is not enough evidence to open a full investigation. While NHTSA received 246 complaints about this “sudden unintended acceleration” phenomenon, the agency says that “pedal misapplication” was the cause of the problem in every case for which it had data to review — user error, in other words.

    “There is no evidence of any fault in the accelerator pedal assemblies, motor control systems, or brake systems that has contributed to any of the cited incidents,” the agency wrote in a summary published Friday. “There is no evidence of a design factor contributing to increased likelihood of pedal misapplication. The theory provided of a potential electronic cause of SUA in the subject vehicles is based upon inaccurate assumptions about system design and log data.”
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    The review was opened in January 2020 in response to a “defect petition” by Brian Sparks, an investor who was shorting Tesla’s stock (or betting that the price would go down). He corralled more than 100 complaints about the issue that had already been submitted to NHTSA, as well as similar events that had been covered in the press, and asked the agency to investigate.

    “I believe Tesla vehicles have a structural flaw which puts their drivers and the public at risk. I further believe Tesla must know of this flaw and be unresponsive to it,” he wrote in December 2019. Sparks also took issue with Tesla’s reluctance to provide data about these acceleration events to owners. “This petition will show that, based on publicly available information, it appears Tesla vehicles have a Sudden Unintended Acceleration Problem and Tesla must know about this problem.”

    ROTFLMAO!

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    Now it seems that there is a difference between funds that strictly match the SP500 and others that have some approximate following of the SP500. Confusing, but I sold off 20% just because I think the stock is rising beyond anything reasonable now.

    Mike
     
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    10/10/2020:
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    Yes.

    It will be precisely 3 months this Sunday with same closing price as today. So let’s see how you did:

    Stock price was $434.00 on the day you made the claim. $880.02 precisely 3 months later and the stock has more than doubled in price.
     
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    glad to see you posting doc, i was getting concerned with the surge out there :)
     
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    Double Bubble. :eek: Nose bleed area! December job numbers, shall I go on?
     
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    Yes, 'go on'.

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    go on and buy some :cool:
     
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    As others have mentioned on this thread, no company's phenomenal runs last forever. But the nay-sayers already lost long ago. Some future large draw back in price, if/when it comes, and the investors of 1+ years ago are still far ahead.
     
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    stock market bubble - duh

    everyone knows that, but no one knows when it will burst. take your profits now and be satisfied, or ride it out and don't complain if you wait too long.

    tesla may be the last one to go though, as cash seeks returns
     
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