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    Norway havent had the sedan atleast, we have never had it, neither have denmark or sweden.

    And the Corolla sedan will get the new design in Q2 2019. But i dont think Norway will get it, because we will get the new Camry hybrid, which is really exciting, we havent had the camry for 20 years+.
     
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    The last iM was in 2017. For 2018, it became the Corolla Hatchback, which is a different car(longer wheel base, etc.).

    The Auris is going away as a distinct model. The name may still be used for some markets, but it will be the same car as the Corolla. Toyota is likely consolidating models to cut costs. Which is likely why the Avensis is gone, and the Camry returning, in your market.
     
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    So u got this? Just that its called "corolla hatchback"? This is the long wheelbase version. [​IMG]
    We have had both the long and the short version of the auris since december 2012 i believe... Then u got the short Scion iM in 2015, then it changed name cause toyota closed down Scion in 2016, then now it changed name again? LMAO. This is getting complicated.

    Or do u mean US will get this? And dont have the current gen EU Auris Touring sports as pictured above?
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    When i search "US corolla hatchback" the only one that comes up is the new short version of the 2019 corolla/Auris. And i know in majority of EU atleast it will still be called the Auris, even tho its the EXACT same car as the US corolla LOL. In most of EU the auris already took over the corolla in 2006, the 2006 auris and 2006 corolla didnt look the same and werent the same platform either, because i think the 2006 auris used the Matrix platform., Its just the transition from Corolla to Auris in EU and Matrix to corolla to iM to corolla again in US thats been stupidly complicated...

    It seems like the Prius V/+7 was ended in USA in 2017 also, wonder whats gonna take over that... I wonder if the RAV4 took over prius V. And I know for sure US will get the 2019 corolla sedan also, in Q2 of 2019, i dont remeber where i read, i just know ive read it.


    And i JUST found out the last Avensis will roll of the line in november 2018 lol, then i saw on toyota.no that the new 2019 camry will come, so i guess that the camry will take over the Avensis sedan here, and the Auris Touring Sports will take over the Avensis wagon. I think a huge reason this si happening is because toyota ended their diesel sales in EU, and the avensis was mainly diesel, one petrol engine choice, three diesel engine choices and no hybrid choices.
     
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    BTW, whellbase is te same 2700 mm on both models.

    Corolla sedan is availible where Ilive as a low cost option with 1.33 engine. It was not in the same category as Avensis.
     
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    It was never supposed to be the same category, it was supposed to be a cheaper smaller version of the camry, but since we didnt have camry but the avensis in EU, it was supposed to be that`s littlebrother instead. Toyota`s line up is truly unnecessary complicated...
     
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    Oops, I got dates wrong back there. The US got the Auris hatchback as the Scion iM. When Scion closed, it became the Corolla iM. The 2019 is the Corolla Hatchback. It is the new generation with longer wheelbase, but that is still shorter than our Corolla Sedan's wheelbase. I think the sedan redesign comes out for the 2020 model year.

    The wagon has the same wheel base as the hatchback, but is longer overall. It could replace the Prius v, but not in the US. Wagons just aren't as popular, and the Rav4 hybrid has been selling well. Its sales have likely surpassed the Prius here.
     
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    It does say on multiple websites the prius V stopped production cause the RAV4 sold more, so thats why then, wonder if they will stop it in EU aswell.

    And yea... The wheelbase on the TS and short version is the same lol, it just got a longer rear end, which is great, we have two of em and we r suprised on how big it really is.

    And that would make sense that the Auris TS 2019 is longer than the predecessor, because the avensis was just bigger then auris TS, and if we had the specifications of length and width, im sure the new auris would be just as big or bigger, which is another reason for the Avensis`s stop in production that makes sense. Size and engines is the reason for it being discontinued then, since it was mainly a diesel car for EU, and now they stopped selling diesels in EU, plus that the new auris will be just as big.


    Here u see the auris and avensis comparison, theyre very alike also... Mybe toyota wanted it to be a "natural change" making the avensis look like the auris, for then to discontinue it.


    This is the current gen Avensis
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    2017 Auris TS
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    The design is pretty much the same... Taillight design is exactly the same
     
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    Surveyed the UK Toyota site:
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    1 Prius Pugin 1.8 122 28 195
    2 Prius 1.8 122 78 70
    3 Yaris 1.5 100 84 65
    4 C-HR 1.8 122 86 63
    5 Auris 1.8 136 94 58
    6 Auris Touring 1.8 136 99 55
    7 Prius+ 1.8 136 106 51
    8 RAV4 2.5 197 127 43


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    Thats the old stats aint it?, the auris wont have the 1.8L hybrid train in the new gen, it will be a 2.0L 180 hp hybrid instead
     
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    Camry is a large D-segment.
    Avensis is a bit small D-segment.
    Auris/new Corolla MY'19 is C-segment.
    Prius is a C-D segment match.
     
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    It is what they showed today. I'll try again in November.

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    I think the Corolla has grown in interior volume that the Avensis isn't needed any more?

    Also, the Camry Hybrid's fuel economy has improved such that it might be worth bringing it over?

    I see that in some markets, the reintroduction of the Lexus ES will replace the GS (like the UK).
     
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    Corolla will have both.
     
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    Some of us remember the Prius, hybrid premium claims used the lowest trim Corolla to the standard, loaded Prius. Manual transmission vs automatic; steel wheels vs alloy, and; eye candy spoiler vs functional spoiler.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    No, it's not, it's the same 2,700 mm or 106.3 in.
     
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    Then what exactly is the all new 2019 Corolla Hatchback on the US site? Toyota lists its wheelbase as 103.9 inches there.
    2019 Toyota Corolla HB MPG & Price

    Our sedan has a106.3 inch wheelbase. If the hybrid's is actually that long, then the rear seat will be roomier than reported
     
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    The current auris/auris TS/iM/corolla is 2600mm in the wheelbase, the new auris/auris TS/iM/corolla will have 2640mm wheel base, says on the websites. convert that to inches and its 103.9 inches on the new one, and 102.3 inches on the old one.
     
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    Apparently only Touring Sports will have 2,700 mm wheelbase, as it says so in the PR:
    New Corolla at the 2018 Paris Motor Show

    And as for the hatch:
    "Overall length has increased by 40 mm, all of which has been absorbed within a longer wheelbase" - so 2640 mm for the hatch.

    Interesting, so the Touring Sports is not just a hatch with a backpack, as was the case with the old one.
     
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    That does make sense, considering the Auris TS is gonna replace the 2018 avensis which is 2700mm. The new Auris will be as big as the current 2018 avensis. What i didnt know about the avensis tho... It has BMW diesel engines... 1.2 manual and 1.6 manual that the avensis came with is engines from BMW.


    The new camry is quite alot bigger with 2824mm lol, so that will be a HUGE step up from the avensis sedan thats also 2700mm

    i cant wait to check it out in the showrooms around in Norway in January 2019, when the prius face lift, new auris and auris TS, camry and supra is here.
     
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    IMHO...Wheelbase itself does not make a case for Avensis->AurisTS "replacement"...
    The current (gone) Avensis does have a cabin interior volume of a family car, while Auris/Corolla stands for a compact family.
    Toyota states Avensis is/will be replaced by the Camry, probably the prices and luxury feats will be similar also.