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The "Poor" Man's (or Woman's) high flow air intake

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by Georgina Rudkus, Sep 18, 2018.

  1. Georgina Rudkus

    Georgina Rudkus Senior Member

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    Basically, remove the three bolts that hold the intake resonator and take it off. The air flow now goes directly into the filter box. It's worth a try, especially in California.

    The resonator serves only as a sound attenuation device. Removing it will definitely reduce air flow restriction into the engine. intake resonator.jpg complete OEM system.jpg oem filter box.jpg
     
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    Is this a paid commercial?
     
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    No...…………...Not selling anything?????

    Too bad for you. I am keeping the set.
     
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    OK.....
    Then what?

    Priuses have a closed loop fuel injection system, and they're electronically throttled, so other than making your ICE a little louder and perhaps cluttering your engine bay a little bit, I'm not sure what you're actually accomplishing.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    To be fair, most of the folks buying those are probably not Prius drivers....
     
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    Arent those intake fans totally worthless.. There was some youtube review of those and they even tested with massive leaf blower with zero help even from that.
     
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    I have the HPS short arm air intake with the K&N cone filter. When removing the OEM components, I noticed all the convolutions in the air intake.

    As I stated in my post on the HPS, the engine is basically a piston pump. Any restriction in either the intake or the exhaust makes the engine work harder, which also creates a lot of heat.

    The MAF sensor and the engine ECU draws in a certain amount of air and fuel. With a restriction, it draws in a certain amount of air volume over a period of time. A lower restriction intake means that the same volume of air is drawn in a shorter time period. That means somewhat more power in a shorter period of time.

    Just think how it would be like running a marathon breathing through a filter mask.

    Just think how much harder and how much longer the HV hybrid cooling fan works when it is clogged by pet hair and or debris.

    The resonator only serves to lesson the sound of the engine at the expense of performance. The parameters and judgement of human experience is not the same as mechanical component performance. Engines perform best at 180-200 degrees F. Humans; in the 68-75 degree range.
     
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    Worthless only to those who don't believe....lol. That should be just about everyone, except those that purchase it...
    Very worthwhile to those selling it...$$$ in pocket
    Very worthwhile to the mechanic that replaces the engine when a blade breaks off and chunks a piston
     
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    I'm going to have to think about this for a while.............my brain is starting to hurt
     
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    There may be a slight difference in engine noise between resonator on/off but I haven't noticed it. I took mine off to make room for an oil catch can. The benefits are mainly more real estate for an OCC and fewer steps when removing your intake.

    FWIW, but most people need to pass emissions inspections.

     
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    I don't see a high flow intake installation/modification.
     
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    I agree that these "add ons" just lighten the wallet. Taking off the resonator takes about 10 minutes with a ratchet and a 10mm socket. Other than that, it cost nothing.

    I would like to have a free flow muffler and exhaust, but that is not cost effective. I only advocate MODS that can be easily returned to stock with no drilled holes or cuts into the wiring harness.
     
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    I did it because it leaves me more room for oil catch can
     
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    My Scangage II has a readout of intake temperature. If I still had the OEM filter, I might have routed a tube to the front fender area for a cold air intake.

    Cold air is denser and lets the engine breathe better. Like humans, engines do not perform as well in the thin air of high altitudes.
     
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    Seeing as I am unfamiliar with the V model, I'm assuming the flexible hose at the center bottom clamps to the throttle body. Where does the red circled portion connect?

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    Adding an oil catch can is a good 'get' for removing the resonator, as long as you do not live where VETs don't help animals.....

    The rest?
    Well as I asked before....."now what?"
    As I said before.....It's a closed loop system.
    As pointed out above, if you don't ALSO uncork the exhaust and then find a way to deal with the ECU then you're just kidding yourself if you think that there will be a net power or efficiency gain that toy don't need a dynamometer and a set of calipers to measure.

    Remember.....this isn't 1973.
    You can't flip the breather, re-jet the carbs and bolt a set of headers on the car to get measurable horsepower gains......and LOOK AT THE G4!!!! If they had to do THAT to a car to get a 2-3 MPG difference, don't you think that they would have thought about just taking off the resonator, using a leaf blower, or any of the other zany stuff out there on a car that is marketed for fuel efficiency?
     
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    I don't see how this portion (marked in red) would be restricting air flow, at least not in a significant/measurable way. It's purposes I think are to get cooler air supply, and lower noise levels. I think it does both those things ok. Removing it is chasing crumbs, I'd prefer not to second-guess the Toyota engineers on this.

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    For what it's worth, I tucked a Moroso oil catch can in, and managed to keep everything looking stock. I mounted the can on a bracket atop the lower cross beam (loosely mounted, so the beam can flex). When you pop the hood everything looks completely stock.
     
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    When I open the hood on my Gen4, all I see is COMPLICATED! :LOL: I don't want to do anything more than just checking the dipstick, and popping in a new air filter.

    (And WHERE is that wire harness recall thing located??! )

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    Looks like the cat turds cleaned up good, looks sharp. (y)

    I'd speculate this the beginning of the air intake:

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    The intention seems clearly to pull in cooler outside air. Not much upside to messing with that.
     
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