Thread to talk about EVs

There's nothing to prevent an S10 EV from working just fine in the winter. Range will be reduced just like with any other car. If storage is an issue, then obviously the smaller vehicle will be better, yes.

How can they do 75 miles? Lying would be the easiest way. Did I mention that you can't believe everything you read?

 

Nope. Not production ones.

 

Add "availability" and I think you've got them all.

 

Yup. Lead acid for sure, until they come out with a high-end modern one. The manual will tell you how best to deal with storage - but for all the ones I've seen, the answer is "leave it plugged in." I'm surprised your moped battery has done so well with no charge for so long. Usually they don't like that!

None that you don't already have. EVfinder is a great place to keep checking.

It sure won't hurt!

 

One type isn't necessarily "better" than another. They have different advantages, and each brand is different, etc. You'd have to talk to the folks selling them to discover which would be best for what you want.

On a proper float-charger, yes.

 

Tracy...

The V in BEV takes care of the "car" part.

The Solectrias are nice cars. They aren't "Production" cars, but the next best thing. They're conversions, but well done conversions. They're a great size, and drive well. I've driven in one, and know several owners who really like them. As with all conversions, range is somewhat limted, however.

 

I mean that if you say "BEV car" like you did above, you're actually saying "Battery Electric Vehicle Car" which makes no sense. The Solectria, and my Rav4EV, and the Ranger etc, are BEVs. Just trying to reduce redundancy.

Yup. They're gas car gliders that were professionally modified to BEVs.

 

Yeah, I figured that but was curious about the range specified by the mfg. Good to know abou the 'real world' conditions/expectation. Hopefully with the nano-engineered Li-ion batteries the regen braking will be even more efficient. As you're fond of saying, "one can dream".

 

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I would SO love to debate this with you, as your points are not accurate. Most notably the third one! I recently drove in an EV that does 0-60 in under three seconds. UNDER 3 seconds. These are the things you've been told, yes? Would you like to hear from somebody who lives and breathes EVs? Please come join me in an appropriate thread about EVs: (well, now you're here, I hope.) I'll expand on this if you are interested in learning more than than what you read in the press (or hear repeated). This is the same kind of mis-information that ticks off Prius drivers. "Doesn't have the power." Wooooh. that's a good one.

Or, to put it correctly, you don't *get* to plug it in; you HAVE to go to the gas station. I fill at home, in the comfort of my garage. You would never "have" to plug in a PHEV. It offers an option. Today you are forced to use only gas. Yes, the car produces very little pollution when running, but we can't ignore the upstream crap that's produced by making gasoline. BEVs *can* be powered cleanly. Today's hybrids cannot.

There isn't a single plug-in hybrid design that would not work this way. You can choose to go on burning gasoline just like we do in the hybrids now, or you can reduce pollution, increase power, save money and refuel conveniently by just plugging in, the same way you do with your cell phone every night. Considered names for these cars have been: Gas Optional Hybrids, and Plug Optional Hybrid. All depends on how you look at it.

 

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Oh yeah man, I hear you. When I talk to my friends about my Prius. They are like... these things are slow right? Oh that gets me going. I ask them back, slow compare to what? The Prius' MGs provide 295ft-lb of torque. How about your cars?

So I did a little research on some common cars that my friends drive, Civic, Altima, Maxima, Camry and Corolla. Just a note, they have the normal version, not the V6. Here some some numbers, 06 Civic Si: 139 ft-lb, 06 Altima V6: 251 ft-lb, 06 Maxima V6: 255 ft-lb, 06 Camry XLE V6: 197 ft-lb, 06 Corolla S: 122 ft-lb.

That shut them all up. B)

 

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Yeah, once you realize how much ignorance is out there regarding the car technology you are intimately familiar with... you have to take the info you hear about OTHER vehicle technologies with a big grain of salt. I hear the EV crowd repeating the innaccurate detractions of hybrids, and I hear the hybrid owners repeating the same tired innaccurate detractions of BEVs. We all need to avoid this hypocritical situation of expecting all other drivers to know about the technology in OUR cars, and yet not taking the time to learn about the technology of others before knocking it. I'm in an odd situation where I straddle the two highest-tech vehicle types on the road today - so I see it from both sides, and it can get pretty crazy sometimes. Everybody thinks that what they are doing is best. I'm the only one who *knows* it.

The tired concept that EVs are slow must come from thinking "golf cart." But ya know... even golf carts are pretty damn fast from 0-20 (or whatever the top speed is). They'll pop your head back if you floor it. But I guess the capped top speed of little run-aournd, and not even considering a vehicle designed for high-speed travel is what confuses people.



My EV1, with 135 HP would beat my 250HP Volvo T5 from 0-60mpg. The EV1's motor is about the size of two coffee cans stuck end-to-end. Oh... and it did this all in one gear! 0-80mph without needing to shift. And in the gear it can cruise at 80mph... it can smoke the tires off the line, with NO clutch. Just roll-on power. That's torque.