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  1. jerrymildred

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    Now that I think of it, I remember being totally shocked when I discovered there were two separate clocks. I remember thinking, "Well, that's stupid!"
     
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    I think of that, every time we enter the west end of the Barnett Highway on a rainy night, windshield starting to fog up, and I'm TRYING to get the ventilation system into heat/defog mode. First I've got to take my eyes off the (dark and twisty) road to find the "mode" button (it's flush, one in a row of uniform buttons), then push it repeatedly while glancing down after every push, a t a small LCD display, to see if I've arrived at "heat/defog" yet. Overshoot, and I get to go around again:

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    Might go with this, next time around:

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    If Honda hasn't gotten "clever", ditched it for something more "up to date", or a touch screen. Note too, the additional mode: all the air to the windshield.
     
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    Or you can just leave it AUTO all the time like I did on my Gen3 and now in PRIME. It takes care of almost all of my HVAC need without fiddling with switches. However, I found out doing this cost quite bit of EV efficiency on PRIME.
     
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    Yeah, it's a BIG hit in an electric car. I prefer to have the setting of some fan forced air over the windshield to prevent fogging. Of course in modern cars you literally can't do that. It will turn on the AC if you like it or not. The Honda example above is shockingly simple to use and similar designs were used by Japanese automakers for many years. You don't need to look at it after the first couple of times. The new designs are not better they are just different to be different.
     
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    Yup: indents at each setting on the dial and the pure windshield one is at the right end of the dial.

    I neglected to mention, it's a Honda Fit.
     
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    Yeah, the natural reaction would be to think the disconnect is stupid, but what would be stupid-er would be paying several hundred (or thousand?) dollars more for Toyota to engineer the integration between them, for something that is so inconsequential. Ever design cue, screw and nut on the car has a cost, unfortunately. So, in that sense, it is a very logical and responsible design aspect. In my opinion. (y)
     
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    So I finally dug through the settings to find the clock and change it. That was way more convoluted than it needed to be.
     
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    No, the stupid part is that there is even a "Them" in the first place. There should be one clock. One car, one clock. It could have a dozen displays and different things accessing it if they wanted. Why the heck did they put the money and effort into having two clocks, when it would me so much simpler to just let one clock talk to the whole car?

    Which leads me to a question I've never checked into because it just occurred to me. Since the clock on the dash isn't the same as the one in the large display, if I programmed the charging schedule using one interface and then made a change using the other interface, what time will the new event actually happen?
     
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    Doug Demuro notes that the Corolla Hybrid has three (count them) clocks, in his inimitable style.
     
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    Which clock?

    :eek: YIKES!! :eek:
     
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    Maybe we all want back to this? lol
     
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    I still remember car clocks with stems like wrist watches. :LOL: But they cost a WHOLE lot more per mile to drive.
     
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    I miss those wristwatches. I resisted using digital wristwatch for a long time. I liked the simplicity of the operation. But sometime in the last 15 years, I have switched to all digital. My current wristwatch Casio MT-G 900 which I have been using over 10 years now, has an atomic clock receiver built-in. However, I seem to live a bit too far away from wherever the signal is being sent. Thus, I go through a ritual of trying to figure out how to set the time on this watch twice a year. I can never remember series and sequences of buttons to press to get to the time setting function. Once set, it is accurate until next time change. And yeah, it has a solar battery. No need to change a battery. At least I have not yet changed in the last ~10 years.
     
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    The "DST is On" menu item in the NAV system does NOT mean "DST is used in my area, so switch to and from DST as appropriate based on the date", like it does in computers and phones and pretty much any other device that knows about DST. Instead, it simply means "DST is in effect now", and thus adjust the displayed time forward one hour from the time zone you have specified. Period. So you have to turn it ON in the spring when DST goes into effect, and turn it OFF in the fall when DST goes away.
     
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    Correct. And I might add that that's the only sensible way to manage DST unless the car is getting date and time from the phone that's connected to the car (as it really should). The governments keep changing when or if it starts and ends. The chaos is amazing.
     
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    When I pulled into our garage yesterday my wife shamed me by figuring how to change the clock on the Nav system, so I had to get out the book and see how the steering wheel controls worked to change the other one. Both changed now.
     
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    I have the "cheap" version so there is only one that I see. On the dash. The touchscreen doesn't have an obvious clock in the Plus. Not saying there isn't one BTW, just it isn't obvious. on the screen I usually have.

    Well, jeez. It's right there. Just go to the Gears icon by using the left right arrows. Then make sure you aren't driving. Then go up arrow a bunch of times till time is displayed. Then go right to change it. Totally obvious. Bwahaha.

    What happens in Oregon next year when we go to DST year round? Not Standard time, DST.
     
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    Just keep DST ON all the time? That's how I had mine for the last two years but was no problem for me. I never used the Navi estimate arrival time feature.
     
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    Inexplicably, the clock that is of almost zero consequence can be set to be maintained with the precision of atomic clocks. The clock you see and that I assume controls charging schedules, that's controlled by who knows what. At least it doesn't drift like the clock in my PiP.
     
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    FWIW, the time from the GPS satellites is always UTC, down to some number of nanoseconds. The GPS receiver then applies the appropriate time zone and DST offset for display.
     
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