Tire replacement Mileage

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-Current)' started by plug-one-in, Jan 4, 2021.

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  2. 10,001 to 15,000

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  3. 15,001 to 20,000

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  6. 30,001 to 35,000

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  7. 35,001 to 40,000

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  8. >40,000

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  1. plug-one-in

    plug-one-in Junior Member

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    I have owned the Prius Prime since 2017. It came with Toyo Nanoenergy. I had to change the tires at about 30K miles. I am wondering if it is just the OEM tires aren't good or is it b/c Electric cars in general have higher torque and just cause some issues with tires. My new tires are Michelin Defenders. It is much better as far as gripping the road is concern. I hope it last longer. However, I did notice the efficiency decreased some (maybe 5 to 10%??). I also have a Nissan Leaf and also changed tires at around 30K miles. I've known several people with Tesla Model 3 and Nissan Leafs, and they all had to change tires before 30K miles. That's my anecdotal experience; but I have owned non-EV vehicles in the past with OEM tires (Honda Accord/Odyssey, Toyota Camry), and none of them ever required tire changed at less than 50K miles. Also, reason I am asking is that EV/PHEV suppose to have lower maintenance cost. I hear people say that all the time, but I think people must NOT count tire change. Because if I have to change tires every 30K miles, then I don't think owning EV/PHEV would beat maintenance cost vs. a good Toyota ICE/hybrid (I haven't owned a Toyota Hybrid so I don't know their tire situation). Saying all this, even if I had to pay a little more for tires, I would still want EV/PHEV b/c of the driving experience and convenience of way less visit to gas station.
     
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    defenders will last you a long time, with a bit of a bite in ev range and mpg
     
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    My Nokian WRg3s and its ancestors (WR, WRg2) all lasted more than 50k miles in my 2004 Prius (as did my Michelin MXV4+).

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    It all depends on where and how you drive. I have not kept new cars with OEM tires long enough to be needing a new set of tires, but OEM LRR tires for 30-40K miles are probably average. I have never owned any tire that lasted longer than 50K miles.
     
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    I’m new here. :) Hi! I need guidance from the Prius Guru’s please. Looking for tires for my 2008 Prius Touring. I had two occasions last year where i hydroplaned. I am ready to replace and need solid advice on tires that will be good for traveling long distances as well as normal wear and tear. I live in NC, so fairly mild winters.
     
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    I sure hope it does last. Yes, I did notice the decrease in range
     
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    Oh wow. that's pretty good.
     
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    I did at one point drove on pretty bad roads on my commute. I don't drive those roads anymore.
     
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    Maybe the Defenders are a goldilocks tire? A slight mpg hit, but durable and good road manners? I have VERY slight experience with them, basically ONE airport run; but I liked the feel, and they seemed to roll very easy.

    Or the Premiers? I hear differences about their mpg, mostly negative, a few positive. They’re definitely an innovative tire, with treads that “emerge” as the tire wears. Never had them but interesting. (@The Critic and @bisco have both said positive things about them If I recall correctly, the critic on BITOG and bisco here.)

    Current all-seasons for us are Primacy MXM4 (17”, third gen touring), nice tire in all but mpg so far. It is coming back a bit. This last one may or may not be available in OP’s size, but anyway.

    Sooner or later EVERYONE needs tires, so these discussions never get old. (y)
     
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    I'm at 57,000 miles with the original Toyo tires and not looking for tires yet. It's not unusual for me to go longer than the guaranteed miles on all the cars I've owned.
     
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    Changed the fronts on my 2016 at 27,000, then the rears at 34,000. Never rotated, so they were in the original positions when I replaced them.
     
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    If you’d had a roadside flat to deal with, wheel might be rust-glued to the hub.
     
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    The Defenders seems to grip the road a lot better, especially in wet conditions. Maybe it is just in my head, but it feels that way. I feel safer in the rain. My hope is that it will last longer than 30K miles.
     
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    oh wow 57K miles and going!! that's awesome.
     
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    It must be something to do with my commute for the last 25 years. Hardly ever any snow or ice (no salt) and mostly rural highways.
     
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    To all that mentioned them: Toyo Nanoenergy A29 or A41? They’re AB300 and BB300 respectively, fwiw.
     
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    You might want to check out Consumers Reports for tire ratings
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    It all depends on what you want out of a tire and how much it costs, if you check the columns. I'd be willing to trade off some longevity for better gas milage, ride quality, and quietness. I'd probably replace a Defender due to sidewall cracking before I wear them out.
     
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    I had the General Altimax RT43 on my 2015 Prius and they were fine. Honestly get the best price of one of the top brands like Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, Goodyear, Nokian some Japanese brands and you will be happy. Nothing makes a car drive better than new tires so just get the best deal you can get locally and enjoy the ride.
     
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    Defender T+H is readily available here, as everywhere I think. Costco has a rebadged one a bit cheaper: X-Tour.
     
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    Yes. The Defender is a very good tire, either the T+H (by Michelin) or the X-Tour (made for Costco by Michelin).
     
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