Featured Toyota EVs At Tokyo Motor Show

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by El Dobro, Oct 26, 2019.

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    And it's a matter of ones perspective, no matter what anyone else tries to convince otherwise.
    And the range is from something like "What would Jesus do" to "Running with the Devil".

    sorry bout the religion thing if that offends anyone.

    I remember those, driving on the beach in the 70's
    Looks like they started around the turn of 2 centuries ago, 1902 - 2018 according to List of International (brand) trucks - Wikipedia
     
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    I like the Mach-E approach of a clear, polycarbonate nose with a 'grill' pattern on the reverse side. This lets traditionalists have an 'eye candy' grill without screwing up the aerodynamics.

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    But will it require the hazing to be buffed out at the same time as the headlights?
     
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    A few more details on the European targeted UX300e:
    EUROPEAN DEBUT OF LEXUS’ FIRST ALL-ELECTRIC VEHICLE, THE UX 300e

    Not much more info than original announcement, but it looks like cargo room is the same as the UX250h. Due for 2nd half 2020 in select European markets and 2021 in Europe general. Has some good performance numbers for a small SUV.

    Now the LF-30 Electrified Concept has some more in-depth info and it looks to be a wee bit more EV at 500 km range and 0 to 62 (100 km/h) in 3.8 seconds. For a concept they fleshed it out quite a bit, and decided no frunk as they brought the windshield right past where the hood usually resides. I guess they decided to use that space for passenger comfort. Massive car as it's longer than the RX450hL and over 2 1/2 tons. Take a look:
    LEXUS SHOWCASES ITS VISION OF FUTURE ELECTRIFICATION AT 2020 GENEVA MOTOR SHOW
     
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    Looks like their vision needs glasses. UGH!
     
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    Normally I don't comment on cars looks because I've driven Prii so long. But what is it with Lexus noses? Sigh, I guess I'll have to settle for inner beauty on their concept.
     
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    Mercedes got rid of gull wing doors, Tesla has had nothing but grief with theirs. And Lexus thinks they can make em work???
     
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    500km NEDC or WLTP for the concept? Cause the 400km range for the UXe is NEDC numbers. That means the EPA equivalent number is around 280km (175 miles).
     
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    WLTP for the concept. Scroll down to the specs, it's listed alongside the range.

    You think the UX300e is that high EPA? I was thinking 160's. But then again Toyota always goes conservative and they designed it for Europe with small distances and massive EV infrastructure. The UX does stand for Urban Explorer.
     
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    You are free to vote with your dollars any buy something else.
     
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    I think it was before that the Bricklin had massive problems with both their mechanically operated and powered gull wing doors.
     
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    That big black cow catcher nose makes me run the other way.
     
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    Usually concepts presage other things and I’m more interested in what type of watered down ideas will get trickled down to the Prius. They are there, you just have to read the details and from there figure out how practical they are.

    Apparently Lexus has no interest in frunks. I can see their point of view, a frunk is only useful when you are outside of a car. Why not put the space to use while you are driving.

    There other ideas in the concept that might make it to production.


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    Is there an actual LF-30, or is it all virtual?

    How useful is space put towards making the cabin feel more open? It's nice, but I've been in ICE cars that do a good job of it. I leave judgement of frunk or no frunk until I actually see either in person.
     
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    Hmmm, from the specs they will probably show off a concept based on their earlier drawings. They really fleshed this out an awful lot to just leave it virtual. Find out for sure on March 3rd.


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    I also prefer to not get knee capped in an accident. Structure in front is useful.
     
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    Ahh. So that’s closer to 275 miles EPA. Not bad.

    I lopped off 30% from the NEDC rating to get 175 miles. You’re right, it could be closer to 160. That battery size is in between the current LEAF offerings (but add a bit of weight and a less aerodynamic body)
     
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