Featured Toyota to Premiere Tj CRUISER at Tokyo Motor Show 2017

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    Toyota to Premiere Tj CRUISER at Tokyo Motor Show 2017 | TOYOTA Global Newsroom

    I didn't actually notice that this one was a hybrid until I saw Jalopnik's article mentioning it. The engine being a 2.0 is interesting, as that means there's a new engine choice here - this has been rumored as necessary for the Lexus UX, which has been trademarked as a UX 250h for its hybrid variant. No word on whether it'll be a 3ZR engine or a Dynamic Force engine.
     

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    Hummer too much...
     
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    Reminds me of the Honda Element.
     
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    Interesting, because the model is called TJ, so it means it could have a TR-engine(?)
    Toyota TR engine - Wikipedia
     
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    Pretty sure that that particular format of designations is long-dead in marketing names - the FJ Cruiser did not have an F engine of any variety, instead it had a 1GR-FE.

    And, we know it's TNGA-based and FWD-based - the only engine families in FWD-based TNGA cars so far are NR (C-HR with 8NR-FTS), ZR (Prius and C-HR with 2ZR-FXE, C-HR with 3ZR-FAE), GR (Camry with 2GR-FKS), and Dynamic Force (Camry with A25A-FKS and A25A-FXS). That old TR engine is for RWD-based trucks, and it's older than the families used in TNGA.
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    I love the FJ. I don't like that they made this so boxy.
     
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    Dear Mercedes - Please take note . . . .
    You are no longer the manufacturer of the vehicle with the worst drag CD.

    [​IMG]

    Toyota goes to the bottom run of the ladder now. Congratulations! Job well done.
    (good thing it's a hybrid ... it'll need all the help it can get.)
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    I don't know, I see some elements of the shape that could lead to a surprisingly low Cd.

    If the styling stays close to the concept, I wouldn't be surprised by a 0.34 or less. Compare to 0.54 for the G-Wagen, which is an actual 1970s design.
     
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    I duno . . . . . . It's awfully boxy. During the early 2000s we had an overly boxy car ... a Range Rover. It had a horrible drag CD. And hey, check out those rims.
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    OMG - did Toyota pick those up right out of the range rovor archive catalog? Or what.
    I must admit - I certainly thought they were highly stylish .... 1½ decades ago

    But let's end this on a double complimentary note. #1 - most concept vehicles never come to Market without significant redo's. And #2 (deja vu) That thing actually makes the Mirai look a little less hideous.

    Baahh - what do I know, I thought the Avalanche and AMC Pacer would never sell, but people even bought those things, so who knows. Just because it looks like a Hummer doesn't necessarily mean anything - apparently.
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    Whenever I see concept vehicle, and a mock up of that concept vehicle my approach is to just wait until/if I see it in person.
    Yeah, my first impression is it's pretty boxy looking. BUT...sometimes that can be good...I always liked The Element. Anyway, I would just wait until..or if, I get the chance to ever see it in the tin.
     
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    Yes, this car maybe the one to replace our Sienna minivan that is being used more like cargo van now. I just have to wait to see what kind of fuel economy this minivan/SUV combo hybrid is going to offer.
     
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