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Toyota Tops Reliability Rankings at Consumer Reports

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by William Redoubt, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. William Redoubt

    William Redoubt Senior Member

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    Note Tesla ranks 28! Honda is down 2 positions. Buick, Kia and Hyundai are the up and comers.

    See original article here.

    This year we converted our Predicted Reliability Score to a 0 to 100 point scale, with the average rating falling between 41 and 60 points. Better or worse than average ratings fall on either side of that range.

    2017 Rank Change From 2016 Brand No. of Models Average Reliability Score
    More Reliable

    (Poster Note: In the article, the content is in a table, as follows: Rank; Movement Up/Down (with former Position in parentheses); No. of Models; Score (out of 100).

    1 - Lexus 9 86
    2 - Toyota 12 78
    3 ↑ 4 Buick 4 75
    4 ↓ 1 Audi 7 71
    5 ↑ 1 Kia 4 69
    6 ↓ 2 Mazda 5 68
    7 ↑ 2 Hyundai 7 66
    8 ↑ 16 Infiniti 4 62
    Reliable
    9 ↑ 2 BMW 8 57
    10 ↓ 2 Honda 7 57
    11 ↓ 6 Subaru 5 54
    12 ↑ 6 Acura 5 53
    13 ↑ 2 Nissan 9 52
    14 ↓ 4 Mini 2 47
    15 ↑ 5 Chevrolet 15 45
    16 ↓ 2 Porsche 2 45
    17 ↑ 4 Mercedes-Benz 6 44
    18 ↓ 1 Ford 14 44
    Less Reliable
    19 ↓ 7 Volvo 4 40
    20 ↓ 4 Lincoln 3 33
    21 ↑ 4 Cadillac 4 32
    22 ↓ 9 Volkswagen 8 30
    23 ↑ 4 Jeep 5 30
    24 ↓ 5 GMC 7 29
    25 NA Tesla 2 28
    26 ↓ 3 Dodge 5 28
    27 ↓ 5 Chrysler 2 26
    28 - Fiat 2 17
    29 ↓ 3 Ram 2 16
     
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    What is odd - close relatives - Toyota&Lexus, Honda&Acura and Ford&Lincoln are each similar scores. But VW & AUDI are at opposite ends of the scale.
     
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    Most of the Audi models are actually different chassis from the Volkswagen models, although there's some common engines.

    Also, there's often differences in the service departments, Volkswagen has absolutely dreadful service, which hurts things.
     
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    what has happened to honda?
     
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    From what I hear, they share the horrid DSG, and Golf and A3 (which are their biggest sellers here) share chassis & most engines, even feel similar. Yes, here, I've heard VW service is a bit dodgy. But AUDI isn't well thought of here for reliability - good during the 4 yr warranty, but the suggestion is that you give them a miss after then.

    Mind you, BMW has the same rap once the years roll on. Lexus is the luxury one to buy as a keeper.
     
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    Well, the DSGs in longitudinal cars (literally everything A4 and larger) are an unrelated family to the families used in transverse cars (Passat, A3/TT/Golf (actually three different families there, one for small engines, one for larger engines, and one for the RS3/TT-RS), A2/Polo).
     
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