Featured Toyota wins the solid-state race

Lol... I didn't know you could win a race at the starting line? In my world the only place you win the race is as the finish line, which is years, if not decades, away.

As always, Toyota's PR department is making claims the engineering department can't execute.

To be clear, announcing a partnership with a cathode maker is not proof there's going to be an assembly line ready to start production of of solid state battery vehicles a year from now. This is just Toyota pushing their proprietary control and hoping to sell licensing on a yet unproved in real life battery design.

 

I won’t be holding my breath.

My next will be a used, 2024 Model 3 for under $25k. Possibly in early 2026.

Bob Wilson

 

As always

Yeah... I bet someone comes out with solid-State before Toyota does... It's absurd for them to suggest they're going to start up factory production in a year.

 

Or will have, once it is mass-producing them cost-effectively and they are reliable?

 

Maybe we should have Elon say it - he's famous for over-promising and under delivering.
Solid state battery in 2022 prius | PriusChat

 

You mean their PR department thought it would sound better if they said they solved both problems... And they were likely told not in 2026, so PR department be like "...maybe end of the year 2027?" Lol...

Point being, there's a long a well documented history of the PR side of Toyota drifting further and further away from reality ever since they started claiming that people aren't interested in electric cars because hybrid cars are better. That level of BS in the recent past makes them untrustworthy.

 

Said it here before ... tell me about it when I can take delivery (I was gonna say when it was on my dealer's lot but that might not be the way they sell them when these are finally available).

 

toyota used to be very conservative with the rhetoric. but the last few years or more, they've really gone over the edge

 

I'll check back in two years.

Bob Wilson

 

They were "unobtainium" in 2019.

Bob Wilson

 

And been even less cost effective......

 

They are still unobtainium in 2025 .
I have no interest in being the first to buy a vehicle with a solid state battery, when an LFP battery or Na ion battery may be a better option, or the now released hybrid battery from CATL that uses LFP and Na ion together in one battery, fast charging and good discharge rates, cheaper and longer lasting they claim ..... they are the ones who have been working on Na ion the longest and are already on their second version ..... the advantage of the Na ion chemistry is it doesn't produce dendrites, the stuff that shorts out lithium chemistry cells ..... both LFP and Na ion can be pulse charged at better than 10C, a 100Ah cell charged at 1,000 amps ..... they don't make chargers that can achieve those currents yet, so just what advantage would a solid state battery actually be?

T1 Terry

 

I'm wondering about OP's stock portfolio...

 

I'll buy a solid state battery Toyota if it comes without a touchscreen and has an actual manual transmission, even if it's a 2 speed.

 

When it comes to longevity Gen3 Prius designers crapped the bed and rolled around in it and acted like no one was going to notice...

 

most didn't