Trying to bring dead 2005 prius back to life

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  1. SBP Mike

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    I bought this vehicle in non-running state. Previous owner said the cat got stolen, so he paid out 900 for new cat, then it started running rough. He took it to mechanic who he says replaced the 12v battery and said it probably needed a new traction battery.

    I swapped in a reasonably healthy traction battery, but the car won't power up now from the power button on the dash. I can jump it at the jumper point under the hood and it powers up and starts the ice engine, but no dash lights.

    I can check the voltage at the 12v battery in the back and it shows 13.5v. At the jumper spot under the hood, I get zero volts.

    I would like to get resolve this power up problem as first step, then check the codes.

    Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
     
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    Well, I'd assume you've already checked given you were handy enough to swap the traction battery, but verifying the connections (especially the negative to the vehicle) would be the first place I started. On the Prius I recently purchased this was the first thing I had to do even though the dealership replaced the 12v battery two months prior to my purchase, somehow they didn't fully tighten anything.
     
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    jumped under hood and got CA799, no engine codes, but dash lights etc. everything shut down when 12v jump battery disconnected, so I am looking at how to get power through from 12v in back to the main panel under the hood. 5 amp fuse on positive terminal of battery is good. The fusible link in the positive terminal looks good, but it's open to the air, looks like the plastic cover on that link got knocked off with the 12v batter change
     
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    Yes, I started there with the story about new 12v battery. It does look like a new battery. I am going to be on the road today, so may not get back to this until tomorrow now
     
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    I switched to torque pro lite and it says, Fuel system status: open loop due to insufficient temperature,

    then
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    no data/not supported.

    I think I have several problems. One is the 12v issue. I think the second is in mass air flow sensor or maybe 02 sensor or something like that. Will be easier to work on second once I can start the car up using the smart key. Right now, I have to jump it under the hood.

    gonna be on the road today, back at it tomorrow.

    Thanks
    [​IMG] here is photo of the positive terminal on 12v with the fusible link that looks off to me.
     
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    13.5 volts is the inverter. the 12v should be charged and load tested.if you aren't getting voltage from back to front, check the connections, especially neg to ground
     
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    you can check the continuity across fuses with an ohm meter
     
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    The 5 amp fuse would not run your headlights much less the engine. It is for the voltage sensing circuit. The 120 amp fusible link in there must be blown or the holder is damaged. Part 8262047040
     
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    took the ground loose and the battery reads 5v, so next step is to charge 12v up. Thanks, I was reading inverter voltage and missing the dead battery issue
     
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    What on earth did you read that code with?

    The second place in a DTC can only be 0, 1, 2, or 3. It's never A.
     
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    dr prius. If you seach the prius chat, it is mentioned a few times and dismissed as some kind of glitch with dr. prius. I switched to torque lite and not getting ca799.
     
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    charged up the 12v battery and powered the car up, but I had dr. prius running and I could watch the battery state of charge dropping at a surprising rate, so I disconnected the 12v battery again. It appears something is pulling a lot of juice out of the traction battery when the car powers up. Any ideas? I was going to read codes again, but I was didn't think there was time to mess around with codes because the battery charge was falling so fast.

    I plan to put the grid charger back on the traction battery and a 12v charger on the little battery and let them run over night. But with both of the batteries isolated from the vehicle. I just want to keep the batteries in a healthy state until I figure out what is going on with this car.
     
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    Did you ever fix this problem? If not fix it first. With the system off and the 12v battery grounded, you should read the same at the battery or at the front fuse box.
     
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    I checked that just now. Both now read the same. about 10.5v I disconnected the ground after checking that and put the 12v charger back on. The draw on the charger with the ground connected is causing the charger to cycle off, like the battery is trying to pull more than the 10 amp rating of the charger. I think my next step is to figure out what is drawing juice out of the 12v battery
     
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    The 12v battery is just discharged severely. Could be bad or just needs a charge. The hybrid system can put out a huge 12v charge, maybe 75 amps if necessary for short periods.
     
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    I have a spare prius battery on the shelf in the garage. I will throw a charge in that one overnight and put it in the car tomorrow and see what happens.
     
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    What does DrPrius show for voltage and (discharge) amps on the HV battery? When you first connect the 12V battery, the HV battery ecu "defaults" to something around 60%? until it relearns what the actual battery condition is. If your battery pack voltage is fairly low then the ecu will start correcting the SOC figure quickly.

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    swapped in charged battery and it started acting like a prius. I think aside from the dead/defective battery, the vehicle was also out of gas. I filled the tank and I think it's time to get the plates on it and start cleaning it up. It might be good to go after quite a rough patch.

    thanks to everyone who helped me get it to this point. I am feeling pretty good right now!
     
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