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Used Oil Analysis (UOA) or Analyses and Extended Oil Change Interval

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by dcoyne78, Dec 15, 2006.

  1. antonyhsu

    antonyhsu openhearted78

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    Please add this oil analysis to the spreadsheet.

    Polaris Labs Oil Analyses for 2004 Prius
    Oil Type Mobil 1 5W30
    Date 11/28/06

    Eng mi 55270
    Oil Mi 8270
    Al 3
    Cr 0
    Fe 8
    Cu 0
    Pb 0
    Sn 0
    Mo 90
    Ni 0
    Mn 0
    Ag 0
    Ti 0
    K 1
    B 47
    Si 9
    Na 5
    Ca 2446
    Mg 16
    P 683
    Zn 883
    Ba 0
    Visc (100C): 9.60
    Flash 365
    Fuel Vol. 3.50
    H20 % 0
    TBN 3.68
    TAN 2.31

    The TAN is the total acid number which was an additional study done that helps. I have calculated the intersection when the acid crosses the TBN and I will include the numbers in my next posting.

    Tony


    Please add this oil analysis to the spreadsheet.

    Polaris Labs Oil Analyses for 2004 Prius
    Oil Type Mobil 1 5W30
    Date 02/22/07

    Eng mi 60669
    Oil Mi 13669
    Al 1
    Cr 0
    Fe 14
    Cu 1
    Pb 0
    Sn 0
    Mo 87
    Ni 0
    Mn 0
    Ag 0
    Ti 0
    K 0
    B 40
    Si 14
    Na 8
    Ca 2507
    Mg 14
    P 642
    Zn 862
    Ba 0
    Visc (100C): 9.00
    Fuel Vol. 0.50
    H20 % 0
    TBN 2.92
    TAN 4.20

    The formulas for the acid and base trends as described on excel are:
    y'=0.0004x-0.585
    y"=-0.0001x+4.8441
    The intersection where y'=y" is 10,858.2 miles.

    That is where the acid surpassed the base number and where I will change my oil.

    Tony
     
  2. dcoyne78

    dcoyne78 New Member

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    Faith2walk,

    I would try a different oil and a shorter interval. Are you adding anything to your oil? If not the high Cu and Pb indicate serious problems. If it were my car I would send a sample off to Terry Dyson at Dyson Analysis to get professional advice at 5000 miles. The very high Pb typically indicates bearing wear. The high Si may be the problem, check your air filter and make sure that there are no air leaks in the system. What are you using for air and oil filtration? When was the air filter last changed? Do you have any other oil analyses or is this your first?

    Dennis
     
  3. faith2walk

    faith2walk Upgraded again

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(maineprius947 @ Jul 18 2007, 07:59 AM) [snapback]480810[/snapback]</div>
    Please read the very third paragraph...the statement by Blackstone read, "Copper, lead, and silicon were the only unusual findings in this sample because you had used an oil additive in the past. Copper and lead are typically bearing materials, so if no additives were used, you may have had a problem."

    Yes I have used an oil additive in the past. Thanks for your concern.

    Dave