Using nuclear boats for disaster relief

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  1. bwilson4web

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    Funny you mentioned this as I started thinking about wind power:
    • Were any wind turbines subject to a hurricane test?
    • Is this an opportunity to 'build renewable'?
    Bob Wilson
     
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    FWIW the Royal Navy has HMS Ocean operating in the disaster relief mode at present. I know it's a bit off topic after all the facts and fantastics have been recounted, and very interesting they were too. I'm beginning to think I lead a boring military life, but it's just my amnesia playing tricks.
     
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    Valid point about generators. A bit of misunderstanding about reactors. Naval nuclear powered vessels bring on shore power and shutdown the reactor for many reasons, but sufficient cooling while pier side isn't one of them. Reasons for shutting down in port:
    1. Politics..no one likes an operating reactor in their neighborhood, especially a couple dozen or more. Physically safer and politically safer to shut down to standby mode.
    2. Setting in-port watch stations. A shutdown system requires much less manning to monitor and control
    3. Minimizing radiation levels pier side and around the circumference of the hull in the location of the reactor compartment. Access to all areas of the vessel is important while in port. Otherwise how would all the maintenance get done?
    4. Shore power supplied by commercial power grid is much cheaper than power produced by an in-hull nuclear plant that is not optimized for electrical generation
    5. If memory serves me right, vessels spend ~70+% of their time tied to a pier. There's no need to deplete the core of a war vessel next to a pier. There's no need to keep the on-board power generation systems and all the support systems running. Everything has a finite lifespan. It's a war vessel. Save it for when it's needed.
     
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    @ wind turbines.
    They installed several in GTMO and they are hurricane hardened.
    I think they either feather the props (blades) or use some other high wind protection.
    I was 'doing other things' there but I remember that they were studying it and....storms NOT being uncommon in that part of the world, hurricanes were considered.
    Sometimes?
    Dot.gov actually thinks about junk before they do it.

    I'm not an especially big fan of wing in the 'bang-for-buck' category, but if you're going to do it THAT (Caribbean islands) is a good place to do so.
    They do not call them 'windward and leeward' for no reason.

    If it ever scales up, tide generation is also a possibility if AGW and insurance companies ever conspire to make oceanfront property valueless.

    Oh crap!

    I just noticed!!!
    This is the Pancake haus and not the Political sub-forum!! :eek:

    Please disregard the bit about AGW.....
     
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    On the issue of cooling a docked ship reactor, keep in mind they aren't tied up in a typical lake. The tides and currents of where most large ships park is going to mean regular turn over of the water in the ship's immediate vicinity.
     
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