Using PIP As A Generator

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by El Dobro, Oct 29, 2012.

Page 14 of 29
  1. wjtracy

    wjtracy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    11,365
    3,608
    1
    Location:
    Northern VA (NoVA)
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    El Dobro on the 1500W model you bought at Home Depot, do you think the next model down at 1000W is as good?
     
    #261 wjtracy, Nov 8, 2012
  2. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    7,079
    3,259
    1
    Location:
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Not if you like toast. :D
     
    #262 El Dobro, Nov 8, 2012
    wjtracy likes this.
  3. Rebound

    Rebound Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2010
    3,995
    2,643
    2
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    +120
    +120
    Ground
    Data
    Proximity/connect sensor
     
    #263 Rebound, Nov 8, 2012
  4. mrbigh

    mrbigh Prius Absolutum Dominium

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2005
    3,686
    699
    2
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    I will add some more information and correcting an snafu
    Pin assignment:
    #1- 120 VAC -L1
    #2- 120 VAC - L2
    #3- Ground
    #4- Data (PILOT)
    #5- Proximity/connect sensor
     

    Attached Files:

    #264 mrbigh, Nov 9, 2012
  5. bielinsk

    bielinsk Gremlin

    Joined:
    May 4, 2012
    505
    115
    0
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Vehicle:
    2013 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    N/A
    #265 bielinsk, Nov 9, 2012
  6. mrbigh

    mrbigh Prius Absolutum Dominium

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2005
    3,686
    699
    2
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    He made it to the news!!! and where was his Prius Chat promotional sticker????:sneaky:
     
    #266 mrbigh, Nov 9, 2012
  7. lensovet

    lensovet former BP Brigade 207

    Joined:
    May 23, 2009
    2,615
    496
    0
    Location:
    Burlington, NJ
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    N/A
    100 watts? Surely that's a typo.
     
    #267 lensovet, Nov 9, 2012
  8. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    7,079
    3,259
    1
    Location:
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    #268 El Dobro, Nov 9, 2012
  9. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    7,079
    3,259
    1
    Location:
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Would this work in reverse where power can be tapped?
     
    #269 El Dobro, Nov 9, 2012
  10. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    21,125
    8,756
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    anytime you go from gas to battery there is a loss of efficiency. So a prius goes from gas to battery to inverter to your house. Generator goes straight from gas to your house. Realistically everybody has different price ranges and different 'emergency' prep need

    SGH-I717R ? 2
     
    #270 hill, Nov 9, 2012
  11. techntrek

    techntrek Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    263
    84
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    The smaller 1-2 kw Honda inverter gensets are as efficient as a Prius (which can output 3 kw). Roughly 0.1-0.2 gallons per hour on average. A regular genset is nowhere as efficient, a gallon or two or more if you are talking the big guys.
     
    #271 techntrek, Nov 9, 2012
  12. SageBrush

    SageBrush Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2008
    11,627
    2,533
    8
    Location:
    Southwest Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Two
    By your numbers, the Honda generators are about 30% efficient, while hte Prius averages about 36%. Pretty darn good, but not Prius like ;)
     
    #272 SageBrush, Nov 9, 2012
  13. mrbigh

    mrbigh Prius Absolutum Dominium

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2005
    3,686
    699
    2
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    I guess yes, while the connections on the proper ends match and NOT in the way the are right now form the manufacturer plant.
    Now, the pilot signal will have to be modified in order to have the proper handshake, but certainly will work.
     
    #273 mrbigh, Nov 10, 2012
  14. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    7,079
    3,259
    1
    Location:
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    This is the connector that Toyota will use for power. That's what made me wonder if it was just a change of wiring to tap the car for power or if was an actual change of components in the car.

    [​IMG]
     
    #274 El Dobro, Nov 10, 2012
  15. mrbigh

    mrbigh Prius Absolutum Dominium

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2005
    3,686
    699
    2
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Man, where you got that picture from? certainly will be another tech information that can be disseminated from it.
    Might it be from a prototype vehicle?
    Also, the interconnect wire is very thin..............
     
    #275 mrbigh, Nov 10, 2012
  16. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    7,079
    3,259
    1
    Location:
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    #276 El Dobro, Nov 10, 2012
  17. CharlesH

    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #5 on former PiP

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2005
    2,796
    1,163
    0
    Location:
    Roseville, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    And at this time anyway, this is for the Japanese market only.
     
    #277 CharlesH, Nov 10, 2012
  18. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    7,079
    3,259
    1
    Location:
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Hopefully, some Japan based members can tell us all about it.
     
    #278 El Dobro, Nov 10, 2012
  19. ProximalSuns

    ProximalSuns Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2012
    1,877
    21
    27
    Location:
    PNW
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Until someone puts it in a box and ships it then it's for the US market.
     
    #279 ProximalSuns, Nov 10, 2012
  20. CharlesH

    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #5 on former PiP

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2005
    2,796
    1,163
    0
    Location:
    Roseville, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    What good is a 100V 50Hz power source going to do in the U.S. or Canada? And that is assuming that the interface to the J1772 socket on the U.S. version of the PiP even supports this (either the control logic or the hardware).
     
    #280 CharlesH, Nov 10, 2012
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 14 of 29