Vegas Trip in the Prime

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  1. pricoaster

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    Upgraded to the Prime Premium almost 3 weeks ago in mid-November from a 2006 base model Prius. What an upgrade! There sure have been some nice advances in tech over the past 10 years. My daily commute (home to work to gym to home) is about 22 miles, so on weekdays I'm typically not using any gas, and I just plug-in overnight. I usually get home with about .5 miles left on the charge.

    This past weekend, I went to Vegas with 3 friends and drove the Prime. In the attached log picture, Dec 2 and Dec 3 (left LA around 9, got into Vegas around 1am) was the drive to Vegas. Decent mileage, keeping in mind that the drive there we were experiencing very strong Santa Ana winds (40+mph sustained with gusts exceeding 60), and this was a headwind. For those of you familiar, I was ramming the gas pedal on the 15 freeway from the 10 freeway to the bottom of the Cajon Pass due to the strong headwind. Car performed well going up the Cajon Pass, was pushing 75mph and didn't feel like the car was struggling. Same with the Baker grade (3,000' elevation gain in 19 miles). Coming down the mountain into Primm I was able to regenerate some electricity to the battery (if I remember correctly, about 1.5-2 miles). Overall, I was maintaining about 80mph the entire trip and got to Vegas with a quarter tank left.

    I did charge the car once at the Palazzo while in Vegas. It's free, you just need a ChargePoint account. It took just over 2 hours to fully charge.

    On the way back, Dec 4, mileage was better. No strong headwinds. Again, car performed well going back up the mountain after Primm (it's amazing how quiet the gas engine is when it's working hard, compared to the 2006 Prius) and I regenerated 1.5-2 miles coming down both the Baker grade and the Cajon Pass. Came back with more than a quarter tank left, and have yet to use the gas engine this week.

    Overall, impressed with the performance and comfort of this car. I don't use any gas during the weekdays due to my less than 25 mile daily commute, and there's tons of charging stations around. Looking forward to keeping this car for at least the next 10 years!

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    congrats! great write up, did you make any money in vegas?:p
     
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    I did actually, did pretty well with the college football and NFL games this past weekend (y)
     
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    i was 11-4, couldn't believe the jets got skunked at home after almost killing us last week.
     
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    As my friend used to say, it's the only place you can go in a $20,000 car and come back in a $200,000 bus.
     
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    What's the cost hit on the home charging? What kind of charging station are you using (brand/voltage)?
     
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    Also curious about the cost of home charging, if you have any generalizations...
     
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    That's insane. The next time someone says "Oh my compact car gets 40mpg on the highway", we can reply with "Yeah, the Prime does 40mpg too... with a 40mph headwind while doing 75-80mph!"
     
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    there are tons of posts here on home charging. it's personal, based on your electric costs. any questions in particular?
     
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    I posted a break even chart. Look it up.
     
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    80mph into a 40mph headwind is only a ~10mpg hit from EPA? :confused:

    There's 95 miles traveled on Dec 3 but OP says they got to LV by 1 a.m. Either he was averaging 100+ mph between midnight and 1a.m. or some of the those miles were driven around town the next day (still tallied on the 3rd) at much higher mpg's to boost the day's avg up to 40mpg.
     
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    You're right, it'll be averaged between Dec 2 and 3 so I can't take the Dec 3 number. (But it could also be boosted by around town driving so yeah I guess it could be lower than 40mpg).

    The Prime is rated at 53mpg highway, higher than the Gen 4 non-Eco.
     
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    What did your ride alongs thing about it?
     
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    It costs $0.13 kWh at home for me (super off-peak with Southern California Edison's Time-of-Use rate plan) and I use a standard household outlet. When I charged in Vegas from empty, the station recorded 6.30 kWh added to bring it from "empty" to "full"

    The mileage from Dec 3rd does include driving in EV mode after charging at the Palazzo and a few miles off the strip to grab dinner that night. I want to say we were just beyond Baker at midnight, which is approximately 90 miles from Vegas. I'd say about 10 miles was on EV mode in Vegas.

    They liked it. I've always been the designated driver to Vegas with my 2006 Prius, and we've driven A LOT to Vegas over the years, so they were used to the Prius. But they were impressed with the improved cabin itself and the good mileage, they also asked questions about the charging and was amazed I don't use any gas during the work week. Overall, 4 of us average sized guys were comfortable and our bags fit fine in the trunk (e.g. it didn't block my view out the rear window). I do like the double wave of the rear window, it makes the visibility so much better.
     
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    Say your numbers from Vegas are good, the capacity being 6.3 kWh, that's about $0.82 for a full charge. And you drive 22 miles on a charge, no ICE. Typical Prius, Gen 4 is, say 48 MPGgas. So a rough calc means that for $1.64 you are getting the equivalent of a gallon of gasoline, which in SoCal is about $2.89. Nice!
     
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