Very shameful -- differential fluid concern. $150 reasonable?

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  1. cyberpriusII

    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    I feel ashamed and contrite :oops:

    I really have wanted to change out the trans/diff/whatever that fluid is. Wanted/planned to do it myself, but...

    Dealer wants $150. Sounds about right for a dealer.

    Independent wants around $100. They want to put in a "do-all" brand of fluid. Is that O.K.?
     
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    most PC members say no to anything but Toyota WS fluid. I personally have used a multi-vehicle low-viscosity ATF fluid which is also ATF WS compatible with no negative results. Then again I change mine every 5k just because it's so simple and so cheap for the fluid. It only takes 4 quarts. Even if they charge $10 a bottle (which is way overpriced), that's $40 + tax for fluid. Add 2 washers for the drain and fill bolt. Those are all the parts you need.

    Check out: Toyota Prius: How to Change the Transmission/Transaxle Fluid - PriusDIY.com

    very detailed and has all the parts and steps with pictures.

    easy as an oil change. I'd say $80 max with genuine fluids if I were to give a mechanic a go at it.
     
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    also, dealers may pricematch other dealers or mechanics. I remember seeing ATF drain and fills at Toyota dealers for $75-80 with coupon/service specials or $100 max. Definitely would recommend not paying more than $100 at dealership.
     
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    Dealer or independent - INSIST that they fill your car's transaxle with Toyota ATF WS fluid. Accept no substitutes.
    It is fairly easy to change out the 4 quarts of transaxle fluid. The retail price of ATS WS is about $9 US per quart.
    So the "stealership will be charging you $100+ for 15 minutes of labor.

    I'd steer clear from the independent shop.......unless you have been there before or know someone who has and
    have been satisfied with them.
     
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    ask them how much for labor and pick up the fluid from toyota on your way. and watch them do it.
     
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    Toyota WS only...$100-$150 is fair market...Go to the Dealership. Good news is you get a real mechanic. They don't let the express guys do this one.
     
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    Only use Toyota WS ATF. I buy it by the case for $6 qt shipped. It takes 4 qts. That's $24. I've changed it 4 times in 190K miles. It only takes 10 minutes. It's way simpler and faster than any regular automatic transmission fluid change. There's no filter to change. It's even simpler than an engine oil change. Nobody should pay a delear $100 in labor. That would be insane.
     
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    Well, unless you're in Iowa in the dead of winter and you don't have a garage. :confused:
     
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    Agree with all of the above. For the small price difference it's not worth using anything other than the WS ATF.

    Yes, you can obviously save some money if you do it yourself, but if you can't then I don't think $150 is too outrageous for the dealer to do it.

    Plus OP might need to buy a few tools to get it done. Obviously the funnel and clear plastic tubing, but possibly also a 24mm socket and 10mm hex key socket and a breaker bar if everything is tight.
     
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    Our dealership charges about $110. I know Aamco transmissions will do this fluid change as well and they charge slightly less using the same Toyota Ws atf, but I just to to the dealership to sit in the lounge, use their wifi, and enjoy their cookies....
     
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    $110 is a lot of cookies. I wish we had US prices for oil products in the UK as 4 ltrs of WS ATF in the UK costs $78.:eek:

    John (Britprius)
     
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    But you get "free" coffee at the dealer (mine doesn't have cookies, but only charges $100 for an ATF drain/refill).

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    Everyone, it's CyberPopsicle again --

    Thanks for all the tips/help/advice. As always, highly, highly appreciated.

    All questions answered quite well! Now, just some decisions. I may check into some more independent shops, I may go with the dealer (yuck). I may wait.

    I hardly drive at all and I suppose waiting until the polar bears retreat back northward in -- what -- June, won't make much difference.

    I am feeling guilty as this was something I was really planning to do myself last summer -- even bought the 3-ton low-profile floor jack and jack stands. But each day that was the day, I put it off. That was while I was in temperate, but rainy Oregon.

    Now, I am in Iowa, and while the temperature right now is a toasty 25F or -4C and yesterday was bikini weather at 39F or 4C, tomorrow it is getting back to a more reasonable 9F or -13C.

    So, that warm spell put me in a DIY mode, but I am quickly coming to my senses and shrugging that off -- rotating tires last weekend was bad enough in the 14-degree (-1oC) afternoon.

    Except for a $20 HomeDepot socket and screwdriver set, and a tiny 24mm visegrips, I really have no tools...well, there is always the standard set of fluttering eyes and hair flips, but those are reserved for real issues, such as running out of Pinot Noir on Saturday evening.

    Thanks again. So, it's Toyota fluid only, avoid this independent shop anyway, Toyota dealer is high :whistle:, but would probably work if nothing else comes along -- or -- move back West where I will probably put it off all summer once again...;)

    Kris
     
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    I paid my Toyota dealer $175 to do the tranaxle oil change a few months ago, this was for my wife's Prius. About a week ago, I did the exact same work on my Prius. It's a brain-dead, easy thing to do, can't believe they're charging $100+ for this job. You just need a way to lift up the front of the car (I used a floor jack and a stand), a 24mm socket and a 10mm hex key, and A FUNNEL with a 2-3 feet clear tubing. Like someone said above, this is easier than an oil change.
     
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    Fact...most people do not work on their own cars "at all" these days...any work. I would also venture to say the Prius crowd does so at an even lessor rate.
     
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    "Most people" is a difficult number to pinpoint. I'd wager that at least half of the Priuschat membership have some experience with auto maintenance . While automobiles have unquestionably become more complex since the Model T, there are still a lot of things average Joes (and Jos) can tackle with relative ease and simple tools. Changing out transaxle fluid on a Gen 2 Prius is a perfect example.
     
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