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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    There are two articles: VW, Toyota Place Different EV Wagers | WardsAuto

    VW Touts Its SUV Sales, But Vows to Stay in Car Market

    LOS ANGELES – Despite Volkswagen’s belated arrival to the SUV party, it is making up for lost time, says Scott Keogh, the new CEO of Volkswagen of America.

    He adds, however, that the German automaker has no plans to bail out of the car market, despite its waning sales.
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    “We arrived late to the SUV game, but we see our rightful share growing,” Keogh says.

    But he then cites the Jetta compact sedan as a “great entry-level vehicle for young buyers.”

    VW, Toyota Place Different EV Wagers

    Toyota and Volkswagen are both involved in electric-vehicle development, yet they pursue strikingly different strategies.

    VW is going all in with EVs, planning to introduce a cadence of them, from passenger cars to commercial trucks and vans.
    . . .
    Toyota is betting conservatively on EVs. It is investing in R&D for EVs and other internal-combustion-engine propulsion alternatives, such as fuel-cell systems.

    Toyota is big on hybrid vehicles powered by combined gasoline-electric systems.

    But unlike VW, Toyota has no determined plans to go to market with purely electric-powered vehicles.

    Why not? Because it doesn’t see consumer interest in them. At least not now. EVs currently on the market – such as the Nissan Leaf, Chevrolet Bolt and Tesla models – make up only 1.24% of the U.S. vehicle market.
    . . .     ​

    Bob Wilson
     
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  2. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

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    Too bad, I wish V-dub would do some hybrids.
     
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    that's the kind of rationale that should have led Toyota to never build a hybrid much less, that non renewable energy wasting Toyota Mirai. After all, plug-in growth has been way faster than original hybrid growth. Talk about a pathetic excuse, easily poked full of holes. Was no one there to throw the slower pace of hybrid growth in their face? Oh well, so, Toyota doesn't see consumer interest in EV's. I would have gotten down to the LA Auto Show to see Toyota's offerings - but there were too many model 3's blocking up the freeway that day.

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  4. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Well we'll always have the commercials:

    (Brief pause while I go to the bathroom.)

    Bob Wilson
     
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    and yet, i trust the future of ev's far more to toyota than to liars...
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Unless those liars are required by law to do quite a bit for the future of EV's. :)
     
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    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    also, cue John in 3...2...1...
     
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    oh oh, new Avatar!
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    just practicing my skills so i don't forget:oops:
     
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    it rarely works out well when you're doing something because you are being forced to. time will tell
     
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    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    They must be asking all the people who go to car dealers if they want EVs or not.
    Meanwhile, all the people who want EVs just place their orders online.

    I'm pretty sure that 100 years ago all the market research done at the feed stores and buggy whip stores claimed that no one wants an automobile.

    Mike​
     
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    .... whoops, sorry. I thought that video WAS what you left in the bathroom.

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    When VW made the Jetta Hybrid, they couldn't give them away.
     
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    apparently, they didn't ask mendel if he would like one
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Well, it did cost more than even their diesels.

    They do have a PHEV using the system in the A3 E-tron, and not all the plug ins they say are coming will be BEVs. Then companies can also include hybrids when they say electric. Volvo's announcement of going all electrified includes mild hybrids, for example.
     
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    There was a member of the TDI club that bought one of the Hybrids, drove it for a while, then traded it back in for another TDI.
     
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