Want to see how the cost of electricity vs. the cost of gas by state?

Hmmmm.....
So if a $25,000 Prius burns about 4000 gallons of gas through its life-cycle, you'll need about a $2 to 3 delta to get to a theoretical Bolt or Tesla.

Interesting data...

 

Very misleading calculator. I can only speak of CA where it has a average gasoline costs of $2.29 and an egallon at $1.58. I can't find how they calculate egallon. But if I look at it at face value, it is telling me I will save $0.71 per gallon.

Fueleconomy.gov says it costs $1 to go 25 miles in a Leaf and $0.88 on a Prius ECO.

Quite a discrepancy in the other direction. My own costs for my PiP at $0.20 a kWh says it costs me $1.25 to go 25 miles. Or in other words my egallon equivalent is $2.50. Again, quite a discrepancy in the other direction and matching EPA. It costs me more to use electricity.

 

That's true (I had a 94 XFI) but if you're going to examine the cost of the fuel, then it's only fair to examine the cost of the vehicle.

Othewise, just stick with the tree hugging or the oil war angle....

 

Keep in mind this is somewhat Apples and Oranges.
The EV's tend to be smaller, and are being compared to SUV's etc with presumably 25 miles per gallon.
This chart is presumably not comparing to say Prius which is still more roomy than say a Volt.

 

How do you figure the egallon is averaged over different EVs? With the little bit of info in the footnote, I figure they are just figuring the cost of electric to equal the kWh in a gallon of gas.

Or they aren't, after doing some basic math.

Without doing more math, my guess is that they are comparing the 25mpg new vehicle average to what it would cost an average EV to go 25 miles.

Will point out the EPA passenger volume difference between the gen4 and gen2 Volt is only a cubic foot now.
The average EV does include a full size car and standard SUV, but yes, there are more FSP ICE than FSP EV.

 

Ah, I see. Egallon is calculated in some way from the average car that gets what 25 mpg? Wish it said so in the tiny print like fueleconomy.gov. Still would like to know how they arrived at that number. But I'll buy that BEV is more cost efficient per egallon.

$2.29 sounds about right for average CA. We're on the high side of the bell curve.

 

well, massachusetts is incorrect for where i live. gas is $1.75/gallon, and electricity is 24 cents a kWh.
if i get 15 miles ev for $.84, that equals 15 miles gas for $.45, and the website shows electricity slightly lower cost than gasoline.

 

OK no SUV's but still as per bisco's numbers assumes you do not get a Prius.

If my calcs are correct, natural gas is only 23 cents per equiv. gallon (GGE) wholesale cost to the utility so it should be possible make electric say 50 cents/GGe not including taxes and profit margins.

 

So, it takes $1.06(e gallon) to fuel a Nissan Leaf or a Tesla S. Compare Side-by-Side

Also, calculator is probably using National US mpg average for the regular gas;

Average Fuel Economy for New Vehicles Jumps to 25.1 ...

 

The LS is more comparable to the Model S than the ES

No word of hybrids being excluded from the their average MPG, but it will also include the sport and larger ICE trims of the cars. 'Adjusted' is also used in the PDF, so the average might be weighted by model sales.

The site uses $0.1269 for kWh and $1.996 gallon gasoline(weekly average for all grades).

 

I admire your persistence.

 

According to Zythryn, DoE are apparently showing only cars not including light duty trucks which is included the 25 MPG chart. The 25 MPG UMich average is for recent selling light duty vehicles,so presumably if you say not new, but on-the-road average light duty vehicles on the road it is <25 MPG, and then cars could be 27-28 average MPG on the road today.

 

Also, cost to drive e gallon in a Leaf at 30kwh/100 mi, will be different than in a Mercedes B class at 40Kwh/100 mi.

 

Right, it is just an average to give a picture of relative costs.
For a buyer, they should do the calculations for the models they are interested in.

 

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