[WARNING] EMI detected in 2010 Prius

driving deaths were up, hospital visits were up, minors using were up, a few other things. but there was a caveat with each one on fact check .org, so, while it looks bad on the face of it, more data will need to be collected.

 

I think a spike in things is expected because of the novelty with few places to use it being legal, which raises the question of what is happening is because of increase in use or just an increase what gets reported since people aren't worried about getting caught now. Like increases in autism being from better diagnosing.

 

Driving deaths are up throughout the country, not just in the couple of states that legalized it.

 

What! You're telling me I'm still in the line?

 

driving death's due to marijuana and other drugs.

 

and talking and texting.

 

and laughing at CC's previous outbursts

 

Pardon my ignorance, but what is your definition of EMI? Exposure Model for Individuals or Exact Monthly Installments?
You probably don't mean Electromagnetic Interference because you wouldn't use magnetometer to measure it the same way you wouldn't use DC meter to study AC (very basic physics principles). Besides, Electromagnetic Interference deals with electronic noise and not health issues (duh!).

It's my understanding that the biggest source of low frequency magnetic waves in cars are rotating tires with magnetized steel belts: https://web.ti.bfh.ch/fileadmin/home/mik1/Magnfields_HPJ_revision.pdf

BTW, when I used my electromagnetic field meter in a stationary prius, the highest readings were in the driver footwell and right rear seat. Higher than my non-hybrid cars, but not by a huge amount. YMMV, and no, i don't have any health issues from EM field. My workplace has much stronger EM field.

 

The car body should act as a Faraday cage, so I suspect any tire EMI would stay outside.

 

since frequency is obviously important, especially for real EMI, what frequency did you measure, Bob (LOL)?

looks like "should" is good enough for you. why don't you check for facts?
hint: Faraday cage is for EM waves and not magnetic fields. we are not really talking about EMI here. Bob used that term in error.

 

My understanding of what a Faraday cage does, includes electromagnetism, but not static magnets.

Faraday cage - Wikipedia

Bob is an engineer, I am much more theoretical. (Old , fat, and immobile. Although about a month ago I had a bone fragment removed from my right knee, so I may be much more mobile once Physical Therapy is done.)

 

A little actual scientific data about a cancer cluster and measured EMF.

Chapter 8 of Dirty Electricity covers a cancer cluster at a school in California. There were 18 cancers experienced by 16 teachers. The incidence at similar nearby schools was 1-2. Dr. Milham got involved after a whitewash job that claimed no excess cancers.

The Graham/Stetzer EMF measuring device was invented by Professor Martin Graham and Dave Stetzer. It displays the average rate of change (dV/dT) of high frequency voltage transients. While most homes or businesses read under 100 G/S units, the school buildings averaged about 700 G/S units. Ideally, readings should be under 50. The meter gives an overload indication at 2,000 G/S units, and many of the outlets were overloaded.

The following figure shows both the 60 cycle signal, and the noise imposed on it.




Quoting the findings of the study:

Sixteen schoolteachers in a cohort of 137 teachers who had ever been employed from <the school's> opening in 1988, through December 2005, had been diagnosed with eighteen cancers. (Two teachers each had two cancers). The observed-to-expected (O/E) risk ratio for all cancers was 2.78, while the O/E ratio for malignant melanoma was 9.8. Thyroid cancer had a risk ratio of 13.3, and uterine cancer had a risk ratio of 9.2. All of these numbers represent elevated risks. Most EMF-cancer studies measuring power-frequency magnetic fields almost never find risk above 4.

What we discovered surprised us. Contrary to all of the recent research published on EMFs, the 60-Hz magnetic fields showed no association with cancer incidence. The new exposure metric, high-frequency voltage transients known as dirty electricity did show a positive correlation to cancer incidence. In addition, a cohort cancer incidence analysis of the teacher population showed a positive trend of increasing cancer risk with increasing cumulative exposure to high-frequency voltage transients on the classroom's electrical wiring as measured with a G/S meter. Cancer risk also increased with duration of employment.​

The attributable risk of cancer associated with this exposure was 64 percent. Attributable risk simply answers the question of what percent of a disease is due to an exposure. This calculation subtracts the expected cancers from the observed cancers and divides that difference by the observed cancers. According to this calculation, a single year of employment at this school increased a teacher's cancer risk by 21 percent. A single year of employment in a room that had a G/S meter overload increased a teacher's cancer risk by 26 percent. These cancer risk estimates are probably low because twenty-three of the 137 members of the cohort were lost to follow-up. They were counted in the expected cancer risk calculations, but could not add cancer cases.

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A peer-reviewed paper reporting our findings was published in 2008 in the American Journal of Industrial Medicine (Milham & Morgan 2008)​

Note that this study was about the cancer impact of high frequency transients on ordinary 60 cycle power. I'm not aware of any measures with the G/S meter of the Prius, let alone any other vehicle.

 

Bob, you didn't have to answer, it was a rhetorical question. Your measured frequency was (much) less than 1 Hz, see my previous DC analogy.

 

To be fair one needs to put it in context. My son did a science fair project where he planted different seeds at various distances from wi-fi network antenna. Some plants struggled to germinate while some others grew faster (anyone can replicate it). My take is different species or tissues can react differently to different wavelength of RF EMF. As a matter of fact, low frequency EMF is FDA approved for bone fracture healing (see PEMF).