[warning] two dogs and one piece of chicken

Despite your eloquent and sidesplitting humour Bob, you have sincere sympathy and wishes for a swift and complete recovery.

 

One of my training habits with all of my dogs from day 1 is to place, then remove their food bowl while they're eating. They need to understand (without confusion) that I am in control. Not one of my dogs would have ever bit me for any reason - especially food.

Having stated all of that, I hope you get through this without any issues and feel better soon.

 

Did the dog bite Bob or just Bob accidentally got his hand in the way of the dogs snapping at each other? When I see 2 dogs fight, they are normally only focused on each other (see this at dog parks), not the person breaking up the fight.

 

I was thinking the dog was trying to grab the food, got Bob's hand inadvertently, heat-of-moment.

 

No snark was intended or implied.

UP Close...With children in the house, this kind of biting/aggression is not allowed or tolerated with a family dog. Every dog we've had got one chance to learn not to bite as indicated...using "negative reinforcement"...or they were gone. Never lost one yet.

 

Liposomal vitamin C at a high enough dose really eases injury pain.

I've used liposomal vitamin C several times when I had dental work. A tablespoon (3 grams) of C before visiting the oral surgeon, another tablespoon when I got back home, and another every 2+ hours for the first day. Thereafter as needed. I used the C instead of the narcotic pain medicine that the surgeon sent me home with. The resulting pain was nil up to a dull ache, which told me it was time to take some more.

Dr. Robert Cathcart used ordinary vitamin C like you'd buy at any grocery store. On one occasion, he took 65 grams in the 4 hours between suffering a 4 stitch wound and getting it sewn up. I would never have the nerve to take that much at once, but Dr. Cathcart was well calibrated in how much C it takes to neutralize an injury.

The advantage of the liposomal C available today is that it is more potent than the same quantity of ordinary pills/powder, and you don't have to be particularly accurate with the dosage. The only dosage limit is your wallet at about a dollar per gram.

The liposomal products I use are the liquid form from Nutrient Tree, and the one gram packets from LivOn Laboratories. I've heard bad things about the capsule form, and have no experience with any other vendors. They are available online, and perhaps a few medical offices or small health food stores. Note that I'm a buyer, not a seller. Sellers can't tell you about the medical effects without running afoul of FDA proof rules.

 

What a crock! Peaches didn't have 100% protection against rabies on the 13th, and 0% the next day. If they enforce the letter of the law, it is to punish you for not keeping the tag absolutely up to date. A reasonable handling would be to have you keep the dog restricted to your property for the waiting period. And take antibiotics - you really don't want to know everywhere a dog's teeth have been. The vitamin C I spoke of for pain control also helps with infection.

 

Is this confinement for rabies control, or for some dangerous dog law? And if the later, what is the legal system to even notify them (apart from your own report to some government agency) that a specific dog did something wrong?

All my dog experience was growing up in an area without any separate animal control, only ordinary police, so I am not familiar with how such processes work. Some counties may have had separate laws, but mine did not. Under that state's law (not my current state), the dog is protected from the dangerous dog law penalties when: "The person was intervening between two (2) or more animals engaged in aggressive behavior or fighting."

 

A relative is a university degree qualified animal behaviourist and also a dog trainer. From what I hear, too many pet dog owners allow their pooches to become equal status, if not the family Alfa. This is fine 98% of the time, but the last 2% is where the problems can present themselves. This is no criticism of Bob or anyone else btw. I certainly got to love and trust my canine buddy and understand the bond between dog and keeper only too well!

#26 I'm all for mainstream physicians prescribing myself. However well intentioned advice on here may be, a forum is not the vehicle for proper self medication IMHO.

 

The incidence of dog bites in areas where "dangerous" breeds are banned do not go down. Large dogs are just more likely to inflict a a more serious wound.

The one water dish is obviously poison.

 

One way to make sure dogs don't feel like alpha dogs to humans, make sure they are fed after the humans eat. They can sit and watch before they get their turn. This is actually pretty important. They cannot feel equal

 

If you read carefully what I said, I never prescribed anything. I reported on my experience with a supplement that is available without a prescription. Supplements can be prescribed by a physician, and they can also be used by anyone even without a physician's direction.

The operational definition of a drug in the US is that it is a substance for which a medical claim is made. An extreme example of the stupidity of this definition is cherries. There is some university research that identified cherries as having the same magnitude of pain relief action as aspirin. When a cherry marketing organization tried to reference that research, the FDA declared that the claim of pain relief made cherries a drug. Drugs have to be subjected to extensive research that is evaluated by the FDA. So skip the claim and cherries are no longer a drug. It's not the substance or its characteristics, it's the claim that makes a substance into a drug.

Which comes back to vitamin C. Nobody selling vitamin C makes any medical claims. It is classified as a supplement. But there are medical effects that are described by people who are not selling it. I learned about the pain relief aspect of vitamin C from an MD who used it extensively in his practice. Dr. Cathcart told the story of how Linus Pauling lead him to experiment with it. Cathcart had no idea how much to take, so he tried a teaspoon full and his allergies went away for about 4 hours. So he took another teaspoon full. Later he caught a cold, and the same teaspoon full helped with the cold, but the allergies came back after only 2 hours. Eventually he learned how much C was required to mitigate allergies and sickness. In fact he rated sickness in units of how much C per day was required for symptom relief. Nobody goes to their doctor for a 20 gram cold. A 50 gram cold is bad enough that some people do go to their doctor. Most everybody seeks professional treatment
with an 80 or higher gram cold. Dr. Cathcart taught his patients how to recognize the appropriate dose of C for their conditions. One of those conditions was pain, and it takes a lot of C to have any impact on pain.

The medical profession in general is hostile to vitamin C. I think it goes back to Linus Pauling, who was an outsider to medicine, and, worse yet, a communist sympathizer. Pauling believed that atmospheric testing of atomic bombs was bad for everyone. He thought it was so bad that we had to talk with the Russians about stopping it. Talking to the Russians about limiting our military development was not very popular. Times have changed, Pauling was right, and the issue of atmospheric bomb testing has been resolved. But vitamin C is still back there with the hostility directed at Pauling. Quite what the biochemistry of vitamin C has to do with the cold war escapes me. But much of the medical profession is still fighting a cold war against it.

 

Ok, OK, but you don't know the personal medical history of everyone likely to read your suggestion or the effect that could have on an individual. Simply because the mainstream is against some practice doesn't make it wrong, but it doesn't make it right either.

 

Is that the hair of the dog that bit you I see on the plaster in photo #1???

 

Lookin' good.