We like sheep... on the ECO Dashboard

Discussion in 'Prime Fuel Economy & EV Range' started by Old Bear, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. priuscatprimeguy

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    Everything except the tulips, probably because I used gas on Thanksgiving, urp Screenshot_20181127-194154_Toyota%20Entune.jpeg

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  2. A Prime Factor

    A Prime Factor Formerly "I want my PHEV"

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    I've never had tulips.

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    Most likely the wrong kind of fertilizer.
     
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    I got my tulips for the first time when my eco status went from bronze to silver.
     
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  6. Old Bear

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    Yeah, we know the feeling. We went to dinner at a friend's home about 35 miles away on a rainy night at the beginning of November. We usually plug in the car there, but I did not feeling like slogging through the rain to string a cord across their lawn to their exterior outlet. And so we ended up using about 3/4 gallon of gas for the 70-mile round-trip from home.

    As of tonight (end of month) our Eco-Dashboard has all our sheep, rainbow, clouds, pine trees, oranges, and tulips. But our fuel use for the month is 599 mpg and that puts us in 166th place -- not in the top 100 of the "Fuel Consumption" list. Even so, our "ECO Driving Score" places our "Bear-Mobile" at 88th in that list.

    What I find interesting is that the Prime at the bottom of the "Fuel Consumption" list -- "Prius Prime9221" -- achieved 999.9 mpg (i.e. all-electric) on only 20.92 miles of driving. (The Prime rated first -- "Prius Prime7195" -- achieved 999.9 mpg on 1583.85 miles.) The implication is that only 100 of the Primes were driven for more than 20.92 miles in all electric mode using no gasoline during the month, and that the vast, vast majority of Primes are being driven in HV mode using gasoline at least part of the time.

    What this does not tell is whether those Primes were being operated in HV mode 1) because of distance driven (as in my case) or 2) because of not having a place to plug-in at some point during the month, or 3) because the owners elected to use HV rather than bothering to plug-in to charge.

    Once we get beyond the novelty of the Prime as a PHEV and our desire to understand how far we can push the envelope of all-EV driving, we each settle into our own different patterns of using our Primes as our own personal automobiles. As Margaret Mead once said: "Always remember that you are absolutely unique. Just like everyone else."
     
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    This group has gotten much tighter as the weather has gotten colder. It was a larger group with more EV only miles just a month ago. I suspect fewer Primes are able to stay in all EV mode due to their reduced EV range with colder temps and the big Turkey day travel days.

    I was on track for an all EV month until my Dad fell on concrete the day before Thanksgiving. I've been burning up the road to ER, ICU, Hospital, and now rehab 7 days a week every since. EV only game is paused, as life has forcefully asserted itself.
     
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    A Prime Factor Formerly "I want my PHEV"

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    Thank you for your useful reply.

    I checked again today and the tulips have finally come up.
     
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    A Prime Factor Formerly "I want my PHEV"

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    I drove in HV a couple of times in November, but still got 999.9 overall. One day I spent more time driving than charging and didn't quite make it home within EV range. Another time, even though I still had range, the ICE came on for no reason and I had to drive for a while in HV then too. So not all of the 999.9 people were 100% EV.
     
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    So I don’t know if Eco Dashboard is getting ready to give me Gold Eco Status or just the recent updates, but I’m seeing extra flowers on the grass and blooming tulips for a couple of seconds while the data uploads and then updates the correct Eco Sashboard with data on my IPad.
    See picture below and speculate wildly with me;
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    Wow, I have never seen the extra flowers before. Cool.
     
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    Seeing as how there are no numbers/stats on that page, you really haven't seen them yet. ;):D
     
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    Ah, the wonders of statistical mathematics.

    The sheep and their companions were all happily on our ECO Dashboard heading into Christmas. Our Prime was among those shown in 1st place for fuel economy (999.9 mpg +) and the 412 miles we'd driven put us somewhere in the middle of the top one hundred 1st place Primes as shown in the ECO Dashboard list.

    Then, on Christmas day, we traveled about 72 miles round-trip to the home of some good friends who were hosting Christmas dinner. We were able to drive about 27 miles in EV mode on the way there, then the rest using HV. We were able to plug in the 120v charger and bring the Prime back to full charge before heading home. And, we again did about 27 miles on EV and 9 miles on HV, only this time the 9 miles were in the middle of the trip on the Interstate at 60mph highway speed.

    The Prime reported our fuel efficiency for the trip at 145 mpg which equates to about a half gallon of gas (72 mi / 145 mpg = 0.497 g). However, that brought our month-to-day mileage down to less than 999.9 miles per gallon for the 484 miles we'd then driven since December 1st. (484 miles / 0.497 g = 973.8 mpg). And that was enough to drop our Prime off of the top 100 list and put it in 121st place.

    However, in the three days since Christmas, we've made several shorter trips in EV mode, bringing our total month-to-date driving to 617 miles. And that raises our mileage above the magic 999.9 mpg (617 / 0.497 g = 1241.4 mpg) and pops us back on the list of 1st place Primes in about the 11th position.

    (Of course, no one can beat LePrimeSnail at 1297.9 miles -- but he lives in Southern California were people spend most of their waking hours in their cars.)

    I was not keeping track of each of the Primes on the top 100 list, but it's entirely possible that one or more of them sinned by using some small about of gasoline and, like us, were dropped off the list. This may contribute to our Prime re-appearing in 11th among the 1st place Primes after having been about 50th just before Christmas.

    I am not sure if this is a morality tale, a tale of redemption, or merely a lesson in how statistics can produce unexpected results.

    Sheep, sun, clouds, rainbow, pine trees, oranges, and tulips are all present as we head into 2019.

    Hope you all had a very Merry Christmas and we wish you a very Happy New Year!
     
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    May the sheep be with you.
     
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    Ah Mr. Old Bear, the Snail has sipped a few ounces of ze "Devil's Fuel", early in December, but was quickly forgiven, and returned to happy Eco Land soon after returning to the righteous ways of "Gas Abstinence"!! Le PrimeSnail expects no further dalliances in 2018, but will probably leave Eco Land early in 2019, when "Gas Addiction" is expected to renew it's assault on Eco Goodness!! Har, har!
    A Joyous New Year to all you unseen friends on Priuschat. May you never again suffer gas woes, and may all your electric dreams be realized!!

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    Yup, I'm doing the Uber eats job, averaging about 100 miles per day, charging my car at the local McDonald's every chance I get. I am getting about 100 mpg so a gallon of gas per day

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    I’m so confused. I don’t see anything in my app about and eco dashboard?!?!?! Is it because my car isn’t on and I’m not connected??????? Prime gas only been with me 4 days.
     
  18. schja01

    schja01 One of just a few in Chicagoland

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    It's a Prime App. You need a Prime Advanced I believe.
     
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    Thanks . I have a premium and the app. Nothing like the photos people shared. Just , had, charging, music etc...
     
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    This is what happens when you're doing uber eats delivery and have no time to charge up that Battery Screenshot_20190124-213653_Toyota%20Entune.jpeg

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