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Well that explains it

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by bwilson4web, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. bwilson4web

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    For the latest research, study participants tried to identify at least four out of five specific odors: peppermint, fish, orange, rose, and leather. Out of the 2906 people tested, 78.1% had a normal sense of smell, with 48.7% correctly identifying 5/5 odors, and 29.4% correctly naming 4/5. Of the total study population another 18.7% of subjects were classified as "hyposmic," and could only name two or three of the five scents. The remaining 3.2% of people were considered "anosmic," with 2.2% of participants identifying just one of the five scents, and 1% unable to name any of the five SniffStick smells.

    Move forward five years, and all of the study subjects who hadn’t been able to name a single scent had been diagnosed with dementia, as had nearly 80% of participants who had correctly identified only one or two of the SniffStick odors. There was also a dose-dependent relationship between the degree of smell loss and the incidence of dementia. “We need to understand the underlying mechanisms,” Pinto commented, “so we can understand neurodegenerative disease and hopefully develop new treatments and preventative interventions.” Dr. Pinto is an ENT specialist and a member of the Section of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery at UChicago Medicine.

    Over the years I've visited various elderly family members in nursing homes and noticed homes have a certain 'odor'. At the time I thought it was due to housekeeping challenges. I've smelled worse but found it consistently not good. Now I'm beginning to wonder if this was a byproduct of decreased ability to smell.

    So this is how I rate:
    • peppermint - put one a Bob sized box held up by a stick with a string and you'll catch me every time
    • fish - favorite breakfast is salmon eggs Benedict, had salmon for supper tonight, anchovies on pizza and home made salad
    • orange - my wife's favorite juice and fruit that I peel for her
    • rose - a dozen or mixed what I give my wife every week or two
    • leather - well I still have both steel toed shoes and boots and I can find them blind folded
    Bob Wilson
     
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    I'll let this ride, but also saying that smell outages can result from (brief) nasal infections.
     
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    Meaning no offense but this also makes me think about dogs. Their world of perception is dominated by smells. With dementia, allergies, or just the sniffles, a dog's quality of life must severely decline.
     
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    I had to put my dear old dog down recently. She had lost her sense of smell and was not eating.

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    PriusChat could do with a 'sympathy' button beside the 'like'
     
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    i'd be interested in the ages of the study group.
     
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    Interested, like reading the free abstract?

    Ages 57 to 85, n=2906

    Or interested like emailing author for a free copy of the article?

    [email protected]
     
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    interested as in, curious how they decide what age groups to include in the study, and why.

    in my mind, there is some relationship between age and dementia, but i could be wrong.
     
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    I assume you are composing your email to Dr. Pinto right now.

    Seriously, in case you don't know (and I suspect you do), authors are generally pleased that someone takes an interest in their research. Further, to discuss its underpinnings.

    This should not be taken as me beating up bisco. Rather, revealing that 'the Ivory tower' is neither. Lift a finger and you'll find out. Could very well enrich your days on this planet.
     
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    When doing the test, where the five scents pre-identified, and it was a matter of determining which was which? Or you're just presented with five scents, asked what they could be?
     
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    I've made it a point to always have two dogs. They don't live forever and my wife loves them dearly. So when one passes, she has the other to love and mourn with while I get another. Then watching them play 'doggie tag' ...

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    Methods@11. See email address@8.
     
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    I've thought of that, but discretion was the better part of valor. I don't think I'd ever be able to handle more than one Airedale at a time.

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    double dog@12. In most cases they appreciate each other's company as well.

    I have been amazed at the amount of (trivial) abuse Rottweiler here will put up with from the Yorkshire Terrier. Imagining thoughts like "Well (shrug) she's the only other one here who is anything like me".
     
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    I've always chosen dogs small enough that if they jump in her lap they won't hurt her. The other rule, females don't bite her but two males decided she was part of their 'pack' and tried to control her doggie style, bites. I turned them over to no-kill groups.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    My last Airedale got terrorized by 2 snotty little Yorkies who would yap at her mercilessly. She was a mellow old soul who just wanted to be everyone's friend.

    I'm between dogs at the moment, and am thinking about adopting from one of the many local shelters here.

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    Somebody start a doggie thread, OK?

    My experience with ~25 kilo size class is 2 is less than twice the work of 1. They were Dalmatians so perhaps not indicative of other (saner?) dogs.:whistle:

    Twice the food though.
     
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    Yorkies are faint substitutes for 'dogs', but I'm not the decider.
     
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    Since I started the thread, I sent an e-mail:

    Subject: Testing odors and dementia



    Some of us in PriusChat have been discussing your paper from lay reports but are rapidly running out of details. The popular press often leaves a lot to be desired so we're wondering about details from this study.

    Could I get a copy to share details with our discussion group?

    Source: Well that explains it | PriusChat

    Thanks,
    Bob Wilson​

    Bob Wilson
     
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