What I don't like about the Prius Prime

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  1. cproaudio

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    I hate to be the party pooper and rain on everyone's parade. But Right off the bat, I already seen complaints in almost every revealing thread. Here's what I don't like about the new Prius Prime in no particular order.
    1. Only seats 4 - It's a deal breaker for alot of people. I'm trying to look it from Toyota's stand point. It could be that the PP's drive-train can only handle the same GVWR as the regular Prius but the Prime is significantly heavier (300lbs) than regular Prius so it can not handle the weight of 5 passengers. Easiest way to remove 1 passenger seating is to remove the rear center seat. If the rear seat mount design is the same for both regular Prius and the Prius Prime, one could easily install the regular Prius's rear seats into the Prime to get 5 seating.
    2. No solar HV charging for US market.
    3. No 17" wheels available for US market. One can easily replace them with 17" rims but that would mean spending more money.
    4. Raised cargo floorboard. Given that Ford Energi took away 1/2 of the trunk for battery, I'm not as disappointed.
    5. No 6.6kw L2 charging.
    6. No DC fast charging for US market.
    7. Crippled touch screen. That 11.6" screen may be gorgeous but knowing Toyota, it'll be speed locked.
    8. No Android Auto or Apple Car Play
    9. No rear wiper - I know the rear hatch is gorgeous. Adding a rear wiper would ruin the look. For me, I really don't care. I'd rather have function over visual. It's possible that Toyota couldn't add a rear wiper due to the dip in the middle of the glass. A wiper would not make contact in the middle of the glass.
    10. No sun roof. I didn't see anyone mentioning sunroof as an option. If given the option, I'd rather have solar HV charging than a sunroof.
    11. No side mirror turn signal indicators
    12. No autonomous driving mode. I know the technology is not there yet but even if it only works on the freeway would be good enough for me.
    13. Didn't break the 30 EV mile range for US market.
    I hope Toyota can remedy some of them during the refresh instead of holding off to the next generation. Come to think of it, Toyota is a lot like Netflix geolocking features. Com'on Toyota, give us what we want.
     
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    agree with 1 and 4. the rest is pie in the sky.:p
     
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    They didn't make 50 miles EV, so I can't justify the fugly any time soon.
     
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    exactly. my 100 mile guess went down the shooter.
     
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    Agree with 2, 10 & 11, for autonomous driving mode; taxi or city bus ride!

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    I agree with bisco.

    I think this is the (almost) *perfect* car for me, as it has been my plan as my next vehicle to replace my loyal '06, but the 4 seats is a huge drawback in my mind. We have two kids (in boosters, and not having any more), but having the flexibility of bringing a guest is pretty important to me. I haven't decided yet if this is a deal breaker for me, but it makes me think about other options (as much as I have been looking forward to this vehicle...). I will hold out hope for now they may offer an alternate rear seat configuration (maybe after different customer feedback :p), but doubtful, I know...

    I just noticed how much higher the rear deck looks, which is also a bit disappointing. I will need to compare the specs against my gen 2 to see how much of a difference it really is.

    It somewhat takes a bit away from the "no compromises hybrid" reputation they have built in the past decade+ ....

    I agree the rest of the points in the OP are nice to have or wish list stuff, but not critical, IMO. However, a moonroof would be nice... ;-)

    Can't wait until pricing is revealed, which will probably be a few months....
     
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    I didn't think they could make it any uglier but they did.
     
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    amazing, isn't it? but i'll say again, the lift back looks a lot better in person than the pics.
     
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    It is interesting that there are very bitter comments about the rear compartment and loss of cargo space but also the need for more EV range. I do not think they are compatible using current technology. Maybe someday if the super-ultra capacitors come of age.
     
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    Is this even possible? I just assumed there are more batteries in there, but I haven't gone through all the materials yet. Otherwise, could this possibly be more weight shenanigans? If so, they're starting to look like the gang that couldn't shoot straight. I might delete or amend this if I find answers elsewhere.
     
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    i think you're right, the rear seat console is hiding batteries. why else would they do it?
     
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    Not sure it's even worth mentioning, but continued lack of spare tire stops it dead for me. Yeah I know, spare tires are so old school.

    Also, I couldn't care if that 11" Multi Function Display vaporized. They could drop-kick that and put in a km/hr to miles/hr button, that'd be nice.
     
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    i just think if they had a goal for range when they designed the new chassis, they could have designed it to hold the batteries properly. then, that extra space would have been available for a spare tyre and storage on the lift back. as it is, it just seems like an afterthought.
     
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    The hatch area looks like someone's trying to hide a body by throwing a rug over it. :)
     
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    nope, not worth mentioning.:p
     
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    a flat rectangular body, sponge bob?:(
     
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    I don't know where you came up with 300# heavier? I think it is less than 70.
     
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    It needs to increase EV range. Volt EV range is much better
     
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    It does have turn signals built-in.
     
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