What kind of charging cable in 240v countries?

Straight forward level two EVSE with a UK 13A three pin plug on one end end and a J1772 on the other.

 

I believe they come with a normal household plug, at least for the PIP and the Volt/Ampera. For BEV's you'll get a normal household plug which charges at about 10amps/2.25kwh here in the UK, but there is talk to make this illegal and to only charge a BEV via a dedicated socket. A dedicated socket at home would be about 16 amps/3 kwh? upto 32 amp/7kwh. The recently released Renault Zoe
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doesn't even have the option of a home plug! It's dedicated charger or nothing. Sales of the Zoe are poor - any ideas why?

Personally I don't like the idea of not having a household plug option. What if your home EV charger broke down? How does one charge the car then? What if you get caught short on a journey and need a quick top up or stay with friends or family who don't have an EV? There has to be an option of a household plug.

I'm hoping to get an EV next (the PIP is way too expensive here compared to the Leaf or Renault Fluence EV's) and will probably install a 32 amp 7 kwh socket with a 13amp (10amp actual) home socket underneath.

 

We don't get 110/120v here (well other than shaver sockets in hotels). It's 220v only. (220-240v variable depending on which country in Europe but most items can handle the variation).

The PIP here takes an hour and a half to charge.

 

North America is the anomaly in the world with its 120V household power. The only other major country that does not use 220/240V is Japan, which uses 100V. BTW, this is why the PiP takes longer to charge in Japan: three hours, I believe, vs 2.5 hours in the U.S., since the charger is rated at a particular amperage. Watts = Volts x Amps.

 

Isn't an alternate reason for the government to require the special-purpose charging connector so that it can embed a tax collection mechanism into the legal charging equipment to make up for lost fuel tax revenue?

 

lol you got it!

All the 'free' government sponsored chargers have an inbuilt gsm connection to transmit info back to 'base'. What info could they possibly want I wonder? Could it be how much electricity you use for your car and then use that to tax you? I think it could be.

 

The PIP portable EVSE supplied to Europe differs from the one supplied in USA:
1. It is for 200-240V use.
2. The part of the cable from the wall socket to the brick is detachable from the brick, it is called 'plug-cord' and can be changed to a different plug in case of need (dealers should have different plug-cords available.
Attached, is a scan from the manual.

 

Yes

 

Presumably that is to support the various household plug types used in different European countries. There are, what, about half a dozen different incompatible types. Yes, you can get simple adapters, since the electric power itself the same, but you have to know which kind of adapters to bring along when you travel across Europe.

 

Yes.

 

Yes

 

Adapters are not allowed by Toyota...

 

Just as extension cords are not allowed here. It is understood that the prohibition comes from the lawyers, not the engineers, to fend off liability in lawsuits from damages or injuries caused by using an inappropriate extension cord. If an extension cord (or adapter plug) is rated to handle continuous 12 Amps, it is not in practice going to be a problem.

 

The topic here is what Toyota is offering in Europe. They will not offer a solution involving adapters.

 

Quote:
"All the 'free' government sponsored chargers have an inbuilt gsm connection to transmit info back to 'base'. What info could they possibly want I wonder? Could it be how much electricity you use for your car and then use that to tax you? I think it could be."

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It is so the government can justify the spend of public money with hard data on usage.Have a Google for:​

"High level analysis of the Plugged-in Places chargepoint usage data"​

 

Here it is:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/236775/high-level.pdf

It is very poor but mainly due to a lack of solid data.

 

It will not be the first time government is covering hidden and unpopular intentions with a nice reasonable cover.