What SHOULD be my next new car

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  1. cyberpriusII

    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    I will spare the details, but basically < I MIGHT BE> getting about $40k I was not expecting. Not that I deserve more like $1.5 million, but that's another rant.

    I love my Gen II. I have a love/hate relationship with the Subaru Outback we purchased a year ago after a traffic accident destroyed our other Toyota. Mostly hate, but it seems like it is a tank, which is why I pushed for it at the time.

    So -- and I am not sure I am going to do this -- if I were to look for brand new Toyotas that sort of are like the Gen II, what am I looking at....or what should I be looking at?

    Apparently, this is a good time to buy a new car.

    kris
     
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    While I dislike answering a question with a question, what specifically did you like? What did you dislike?
     
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    gen4's have been great so far. no major issues that i recall. prime if it works for you.

    are you thinking new or used?
     
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    I've read good things about the RAV-4 hybrid. It doesn't crank my tractor but appears to be a fine ride with a lot of utility. It appears to be high enough you don't have to 'squat' down into the seat.

    Our 2017 Prius Prime was 'OK', the best of the Prius line, but we traded it in for our Tesla Model 3.

    Living in a small, Southern town, our two EVs work for us but we also have a 16kW, natural gas fueled, emergency generator. Our 2014-2016 BMW i3-REx has a motorcycle engine to extend the 72 mi battery range to 24x7, for cross country trips.

    The Tesla SuperCharger network is 24x7 and quite affordable (cheaper than the BMW i3-REx chargers!) But having grid independent, home charging would be critical.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I like the new RAV4 Hybrid. Hybrid comes with 4 wheel drive. (For those "woodsy folk"):)
     
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    Oh, and I wish you the best! Glad you are getting something.
     
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    Yes need more info.
    For example, I want more children.
    That could mean you need a car with a back seat.
    Snow, dirt roads, fast highway travel, commute.
    The location of the dealership to your residence can be a factor too.
    Jeep Wrangler - good resale, Miata MX5 - sporty convertible, RAV 4 popular and related to this site.
    Need more info.
     
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    As the owner of a first gen 2017 RAV4 HV...I agree with recommendations of the "new" RAV4 HV.
     
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    Since you already have a SUV. If you want a fuel-efficient Toyota car, either Gen4 or Collora Hybrid is a good option. Prime is another choice if you can live with a smaller cargo and can get a full tax credit.
     
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    Are you keeping the Subaru? Too bad if you hate it.
    And when you say, " if I were to look for brand new Toyotas that sort of are like the Gen II "Sorta Like- that means Hybrid, because basically it's been 11 model years since the last Gen 2, really nothing brand new is too much like them.
    Just like a multi-generation family portrait, it's been 2 generations since Gen 2, today you might see a resemblance but styles have changed quite a bit.

    It really comes down to what you want. And if you are keeping the Subaru, what you believe you already have.
    All I can say, is if I was looking and money was no object, I think the RAV 4 Hybrid would be the best "All-Purpose" Hybrid, but it might beyond what you want or need with the Subaru already on board.

    If you want something that evokes a possible sense of familiarity with your Prius, well...another Prius. I'd look a Prius and Prius Prime. I like shopping for a new vehicle, when I can, so I would definitely look at the Toyota Corolla Hybrid. That's not weeding out much of the Toyota Hybrid choices, I realize. I'm basically saying....go look at all of them.

    It absolutely makes no sense, on future maintenance or financial platform, but I hear you saying you "mostly hate" your Outback, and love your Gen 2.
    Something in me wants to suggest you just keep your Gen 2, and replace your Outback. But I'm afraid I'd be directing you into the possible dark, scary and haunted part of the forest. While I feel you might be most happy doing this, I simultaneously think it's not really a good thing to do. So I'm just going to backhandedly plant the subconscious idea, while whispering " Don't Do It".

    So in short, I've been no help at all.

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    Looking for a Gen II -- only a 2020 model (or 2021) -- in other words, what is most like the GII.

    The Outback is great for the dogs. Great for getting out into more of the misty woods than the Prius is capable of getting into.

    Also great for getting me off our very remote farm if the winter closes in and snow clogs the road.

    The Outback is also full of "gee-gaws" as my gram used to say. While they have their purpose, I am not impressed.

    What does impress me about the Outback is if I am in a wreck -- the Outback is the car I want to be in at that time. So, while it is not the car I would choose in a perfect world, with the drivers we all have to contend with, it is the rig that I want my near and dear traveling in.

    So, the dogs and the toddler pretty much only travel in the Outback. Husband, meh.

    The Outback stays. Despite my grumbling.
     
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    In that case, I'm going to say, go look at new Prius, including the Prime. But with the same warning I gave above. It's been 12-13 model years and 2 whole Generations released since your Gen 2 rolled off the assembly line.
    I think you're probably going to be struck more by the differences, than the similarities.
     
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    Much of that is simply the fact that it is a much newer design than your old Prius. Safety design has moved significantly forward throughout the industry. A new Prius, or a new almost-anything, will be considerably safer than your old Prius almost-anything.

    Don't let it burn a hole in your pocket. If you weren't previously thinking of a replacement car anytime soon, it might be better to save or invest all or most of this windfall.
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    So...And I guess I should say I HAVE NOT LOOKED ANY OF THE PRIUS MODELS.....not even sure what the Prius Prime is...

    But, I assume there are only a couple of them to sort through -- and even myself -- a distracted mom of dogs and kid -- could figure out what is most like my beloved GII.

    But the top marks the Outback scored in the Highway Safety tests pushed me to it a year ago.

    2019 SUBARU OUTBACK | NHTSA
    kris
     
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    You crack me up Electric!!
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    Yeah, that's the thing. I was originally planning to maybe get another car two or three years from now. But, with the cash falling on my head and with the current deals.....

    Well, the Outback still runs....LOL And to give the car it's due....I was forced to turn around today on a one-lane dirt track with nothing but a bunch of drop-offs, pine needles and not much else. IN the Prius, I would have been sliding down to San Francisco. The Outback, no issue...Managed a "seven-point" turn and no loss of traction at all.

    I think the dogs were disappointed that we were not stuck.
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    Deals are not consistent now because manufacturers are not producing a lot. On the Rav4 hybrid forum people are complaining that dealers are not giving much of a discount.

    If you can wait 1 1/2 to 2 years, the next gen Prius should be coming out and may go back to a more 'normal" look since the gen 4 has been panned for being weird. Some say it may be SUVish, others say it may be plug in only. Nobody really knows.

    If you don't feel the need for a hybrid, to me the Subaru Crosstrek is the closest thing to a Prius, a 4 door compact hatchback, around the same size as a Prius but with more ground clearance.
     
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    It is a Gen-4 Prius with a slightly larger traction battery and a J1772 charge port. The 25 mile EV range means in Huntsville, it is a 3-stop, EV car before you need to look for a charger IF you want to run EV.

    Let me suggest using PlugShare<dot>com with a J1772 filter to see if you can reach nearby shops with J1772 chargers. If within 20-25 miles, you have the option of driving there; parking at a charger (often free), and; return with a 50% discount on the trip. Let the merchant pay for the trip. <grins>

    The Prius Prime has the cooled exhaust tap AFTER the catalytic converter. This alleviates the soot and gunk problem of the cooled, exhaust valve in the Gen-3. The dynamic cruise control and lane alert makes long distance travel much improved over our Gen-3 and Gen-1 Prius.

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    Whatever you choose, make sure it has a Lithium based traction battery if it has a traction battery. Should last longer without needing replacement.

    moto g(7) power ?
     
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    Maybe a Tesla model 3? Second hand, if you're trying to avoid carrying a loan.
     
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