Who do we trust?

My question was for @jacktheripper , not for you, but if you want to answer about Jack's formal education and work experience, be my guest. I thought it would be better if it came straight from Jack.

 

It seems some are playing third grade games and bullying when the issue is safety and reliability. What about all the lithium customers that are being left behind as a safer sodium battery is rolled out?

The space shuttle went up successfully three times even though Morton Thiokol engineers were sounding the warning. Management overrode the engineers and convinced NASA their rocket’s safety and reliability were proven by the first three flights. The fourth blew up in front of the nation. The engineers were right.

We hear 4000 (?) have the lithium packs and smoke rising from a pack was faked with a torch to discredit Nexpower. By a scorned engineer’s collusion with a customer. Sure.

 

Can we close this thread again? It's turning into a flamewar cesspool.

Please and thank you, @Tideland Prius @Danny.

 

@AzusaPrius, there's a reason I trust mudder.

When Mudder finds faults with his released products, he publishes what the ISO calls Corrective Action Responses.

He doesn't gloat to anyone that he does this. I only discovered that he files these when reviewing the git logs of his product.

This is paperwork. This lets an engineer say what happened, and what they did.

Some examples:

Honda_Insight_LiBCM/Electronics/PCB (KiCAD)/Motherboard/RevC/CARs/CAR061 - TRIAC Overheats with larger grid chargers .txt at 48e98eb155f4603aa8749fc98645f324bdb75dd0 · doppelhub/Honda_Insight_LiBCM · GitHub

I'd have a *lot* more faith in NexPower -- and in you, @jacktheripper -- if you filed these. I could then trust, as an end-user, that even *if* my product failed, I am in a public class of consumers who have had this issue identified. I just want to know I exist.

On the flip side, I could go and find out whether or not a particular pre-failure is occurring in my product.

That is the entirety of my response. I'm not adding anything more to this thread -- I should probably not be responding anyways, because I know that @AzusaPrius has a long-running habit of posting inflammatory statements.

It's one thing to overemphasize problems.

You're taking it way too far if you're accusing people of really evil kinds of fraud/conspiracy.

Edit: Aand, thread unwatched. I've given it my all. I hope this is the last non-admin post :^)

 

How well has this thread aged? It's an interesting read.....

Dr. Prius Packs Less Than A Year Away? | PriusChat

 

Does Toyota come out and say why they changed the Prius ICE on the Gen 4 or did they just make another version?
And guess what? People come here and publicly dissect the reasons for the failure, yet no one from Toyota comes here trying to smash down all opposing opinions, even those based on facts and science. Toyota doesn't complain that we should be supporting them, not trying to "tear down their business".

I've tried becoming more civil towards you because I actually think you may be spectrum challenged, just based on your arguing like a 6 year old mentality. I asked Jack some questions, not you. Your responses are effing stupid. How many people need to tell you that before you believe it and just be quiet? There's a saying about arguing with idiots...they're better at it than you and will just beat you down with the same idiocy over and over again. You keep proving that saying is true. The way you post, you also have "sauce on your face and shirt" but it came from NexPower.

 

> I've tried becoming more civil towards you because I actually think you may be spectrum challenged, just based on your arguing like a 6 year old mentality.

I take it back. Come on, @TMR-JWAP, don't feed the trolls. If I'm not mistaken, @AsuzaPrius is *paid to do this*.

 

> dont stoop to kid level and ask to close a thread in this section of the forum which is open to discuss anything

You're being a jerk to people! Why? You're accusing a person I consider my friend -- remember, I have Mudder's pack installed in my car and helped him with some code! -- you're accusing them of what I'm pretty sure is a crime.

If you're not being paid by Jack, why are you handling his order numbers / dealing with PriusChat orders for him? It really seems like there's a contractual relationship going on there -- not that that's illegal or even bad.

 

> You dont have to come here and read anything, you can simply ignore it all.

Yes, I do. I do, because you folks have been stubborn and recalcitrant jerks to an engineer friend of mine whom I'd like to continue to be able to do engineering with me -- with all of us. I really wish you'd see that -- as soon as you made an engineering problem personal, you -- personally you -- took away hours, days, months from peoples' lives, and your own, that you could have instead spent productively answering the question, "how can I help fix this?"

Please, look in a mirror and ask yourself: do you want to be better for yourself, or worse for everyone else?

 

And *now*, I will use the power granted to me by this great ol' forum to take a nice break from @AsuzaPrius. Might I suggest everyone else in this thread do so too?