Why are you keeping your 4th gen Prime?

All the same reasons. In addition, I put a hitch on mine for a car rack, and I also added signal light wiring in the event I want to tow some thing. I also bought a Thule rack for my kayak, and skis. All of that cost a couple of thousand dollars. So I feeling I’ve got an invested in the vehicle. Also, I have a full set of snow tires on rims and a spare snow tire and a spare regular tire mounted in the event we go on a long road trip and want a spare tire. I just saw a review of the newest generation Prius prime on road and driver. Other than more EV range, they said the vehicle is basically identical.

 

what is a 4th gen Prime? Are you referring to the new design of the 2023 Prime? I really dislike it, I think the Prius has always stood out with it's unique style, but the new model looks like so many other cars now. It reminds me of the Dodge Dart or something, or even the Corolla. I've always thought the Prius Prime was one of the best looking cars I've ever seen, and now it just seems rather ordinary. Even the cool colors like Titanium Glow and the Blue are gone! And I am really bothered for some reason by the interior, with the shifter being moved from the dash (where it's been for years) to between the seats. But the updated tech looks really great, as does the increased EV range. But I'm also disappointed that the overall mpg is lower, the increased ground clearance would be nice though!

 

4th gen = 2017-22

5th gen = 2023 - ?

 

Yeah I think something bad happened, when they started referring to the third gen Prius with plug-in, as "first gen". And then the fourth gen with plug-in (aka Prius Prime) was 2nd gen? or was it first gen "Prime".

 

toyota has made a lot of naming mistakes along the way, confusing many vehicle models

 

Gen4 is 2016-2022

JeffD

 

For Prius Prime, there was no 2016 MY.

 

Theoretically, if I owned one, my biggest considerations would be the extended range and lower hatch floor.
Opposing those would be lower roof, narrower hatch and 17” wheels

 

To me, the 2017-2022 Prius Prime is the First Generation named Prius Prime. The 2012-16 Prius Plug-In was name Prius Plug-In. TOmato, TomAto.

That said I plan on keeping my 2017 Prius Prime with 42k miles. Complements my 2012 Model S very well.

 

I consider my 2020 Prime to be my last gas car purchase of any kind. In fact, my garage has been wired now for 2 fully electric cars at 220 V, up to 50 amps. Purchasing my first fully electric car will almost certainly involve replacing my wife's 2015 Honda CRV -but we're not ready to do that yet. It doesn't make much sense since it performs well and she drives it only 4000 miles/year. We might get her a fairly cheap electric with limited range and keep driving the Prime on longer trips until it feels antiquated. The Prime still feels very modern to me since I moved up from a stripped down 2009 Ford Focus!

 

I already sold my 2021 PP 4 months ago and traded to 2022 Escape PHEV for a longer EV range and bigger cargo space. Not necessarily better fuel efficiency, but we consolidated two cars, PP and Pathfinder Hybrid, into one car.

No plan to acquire all new 23 PP. But if I have to get another car, it will likely be a Bolt on a cheap.

Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.

 

I'm still enjoying my car way too much to even think about trading it in.

 

The features I want for the Gen 5 Prius Prime are mixed between all three versions. I want the smaller wheels and infotainment center, but I also love Smart Keys that open anywhere and prefer the Softex seats. If I'm paying $35,000 for a new vehicle, I do not want to compromise.

Like Northerner, the gen 4 will probably be my last hybrid. I want to make the transition to all-electric.

 

I don’t have a Prime but a PiP, but I still see some advantages to choosing a 2020-2022 Prime over the Gen 5 (excluding the early 4-seaters since that is a showstopper for me):

1. Slightly more efficient
2. More practical headroom in rear
3. Lower cost “normal” 15” tires (could keep my same winter rims & tires…)
4. Established track record of rock solid reliability
5. The most cost effective vehicle is usually the one you already own (if you have one!).

If the used market were “normal” and I could get a “previously enjoyed” 20-22 Prime for a “good” price, I would still seriously consider it since it honestly still meets my needs (power/space/practicality), as much as I would miss the greatly improved infotainment, wireless CarPlay, more hp and other luxuries. However, with vehicle prices what they are, paying the “small” premium for a Gen 5 (with more features… and my dealer sells at MSRP) makes more sense compared to buying used for equal or more than it was new (with less or minimal warranty)… well at least, as much sense as buying a brand NEW car can, which is a luxury no matter how you look it…

My $0.02…

 

Instead of getting the new 2023 PP, here's why I'm keeping my 2017 PP - it's paid for, 43k miles, meets my family's transportation needs, complements my Model S.

PS - the maintenance costs I'm saving on my PP are used on the Model S

 

i have 2017 prius prime: 63K miles. will keep it for a while. I don't need the extra 14 to19 miles EV. my daily commute is all EV already. also, don't need the extra horsepower/faster 0-60 time. i am quite happy with my prius prime: low maintenance, reliable.

 

As a short legged, tall person (6'4"), I'm afraid I will not fit in the new Prime, and I'm really doubtful I'll ever find a brand new one for ~10k off msrp (rebate+tax credit) like my 2021. One of the reasons I bought the Prime was for expected longevity so dumping it after 2 years isn't in the plan.