In all my years, and they have been many, I have owned many cars. I've owned high end to econoboxes. I just love cars. And sometimes I think I love the negotiation game when purchasing a car so much that might be one of the reasons I've bought so many. Yes, I have lost money many times since I trade them before I can recoup the depreciation. Did I say - I just love cars. In all the cars I have owned, I have belonged to many owners forums...some have been challenging. Lots of trolls and lots of flamers. Not here. You are all so great; it seems that the Prius is more than a vehicle for us; I'm beginning to believe its a culture! Thank you all so much....I am so glad to be part of this group.