30K scheduled maintenance for 2017 Prime

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  1. tomshi

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    Excuse the newbie ignorance. So RepairPal estimate that the 30k scheduled maintenance should cost $420-$580 for my 2017 Prime in Portland Oregon area. Is that really how expensive it will be? or is RepairPal not very reliable? Any ideas on how to reduce the cost? I read through the list of recommended items for 30k maintenance and have already changed the engine and cabin air filters myself. But for the inspections and the tire rotations and the engine oil change I don't have the skills and tools to do.

    I have read the Consumer Report article on how to keep car maintenance cost down for Prius. That article suggest just ask for oil change at the dealership and trust that they will do a free inspection along the way. Is that a good approach?

    Thanks for any advice.
     
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    The cabin and engine filters I would not automatically replace, rather: inspect them, and replace as needed.

    The "inspections" are mostly for the lawyers, with one exception. Looking at the 30K info, for reference:

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    In summary: there's an engine oil and filter change, a tire rotation, and last but not least (and it's really subtle): there's a full brake inspection, not the "visual" inspection that's every 6 months or 5K miles.

    If you are thinking to DIY the brake inspection, I have a few tips, things not really spelled out in the Repair Manual.

    Attached is repair manual info:
     

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    no engine oil and filter at 30k? i thought it was every 10k?
     
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    welcome!
    call a few dealers and get prices. i would estimate $120.-$150.

    i think repair pal is off.

    also, you don't have to go to a dealer
     
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    Oh, THERE it is, lol. I will edit... :oops::LOL:
     
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    I don't know: a tire rotation, oil/filter change AND full brake inspection?

    Still it seems like a lot of US owners just swerve by that last one?

    And, if an independent shop is doing the brakes, I would quiz them regarding Prius experience, hopefully don't pop the pistons out (opening the driver's door with calipers off the rotors), and get the rear brake piston orientation right.
     
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    certainly, i would want a qualified shoppe. oil and filter should be under a hundred, tires at 5 each, do the brake inspection with the tires off, what does that entail? at thirty k, i would give them a visual once over.
     
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    Toyota USA recommends visual every 5K or 6 months, but full inspection at 30K or triyearly. FWIW, Toyota Canada recommends the fully inspection every 32K kms (about 20K miles) or biyearly. With our low miles I opted for the US schedule.

    But the bottom line is that something more than just taking the tires off and looking at the brakes, is warranted, every 3 years.

    Still, it seems like the majority of owners, maybe abetted by the dealerships, skirt that service. The dealerships because it's labour intensive ($'s), no parts to upsell (until the pads finally pack it in). The owners because it's expensive.

    And then there's the brake fluid replacement. Ah, I better not get started, lol.
     
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    i would love to see toyota protocol for the 30k inspection. would that be in the service manual?
     
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    The brake attachment in post 2 "describes" it, except it's complete soup-to-nuts, Toyota doesn't really spell out what's involved. You obviously don't rebuild the caliper. Honda Shop Manuals are better in this regard.
     
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    Those three items will be around $150 at my dealer. If I forego the full brake inspection and rely on their cursory inspection included in the free multi-point inspection, oil and lube and tire rotation will cost ~$60.

    Do you use snow tires? If you do, I would skip the tire rotation at miles, but do the rotation and tire change twice a year when swapping. If you don't use snow tires, for your next purchase of a set of new tires, look around nearby shops offering lifetime free tire rotation with purchase of tires. Or you can purchase a few tools for the cost of a single visit to a dealer to perform simple maintenance DIY.
     
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    Way over priced. I just passed 30,000 miles and it cost $50.00 at the dealership.
     
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    I'd assume you waived the proper brake inspection, DIY'd the air filters replacement (if warranted).

    This is pure apples and oranges. Sure, if you just roll in for an oil change and tire rotation, $50 is a great price.

    What Toyota says for the 30K service:

    A visual brake inspection won't cut it; time for a complete brake inspection.

    Owners complain about the labour cost of an old-school brake inspection, maybe dealerships don't like it either: it's labour intensive, not enough profit. So both parties just let it slide.

    And later, you see the posts, about seized caliper pins and so on.
     
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    I believe his point is, you just need to change the oil/filter and do tire rotation.
     
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    I paid for the oil change. I did the engine air filter and cabin air filter myself. Skipped tire rotation since I just had my summer tiers put back on after having snow tires. I visually inspected the brake pads myself and found plenty of life left at 30k.
     
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    Just bought a 2017 Prime with 30k on it. I think I'll do air filters (cabin/engine) and do an oil change and then keep the miles going. Tires are fine...originals..will get another 5k on fronts, then another 5k on rotation and we'll need tires around 40k.
     
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    Had my 2016 Prius Four Touring 30K done yesterday. Was $200 at the dealer.
     
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    Sounds like a good deal, assuming they did a full brake inspection. (y)
     
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    I would skip the "complete" brake inspection. At 30K, you have almost zero wear on your brakes, since much of the braking is done by the motors. If you have brake problems, you'll know it without this inspection. This is a "cover your nice person" item that Toyota likely added after the unintended acceleration problems (along with checking floor mats every 5K, brake/throttle override, etc.).

    Any competent shop (including independents) should be able to do the entire 30K service for $150-$200.

    If you have the dealer do this service, see if they ask if you have been driving on dirt roads or dusty road, towing, heavy vehicle loading, extensive idling - there are different maintenance items called out for those conditions. Hint - they won't ask. Also, ask them for the runout measurements that they are supposed to take on the brake discs (which they also won't do).
     
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