HELP! What's this tire mark MEAN?!?!

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  1. Mendel Leisk

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    24" breaker bar helps with lug nut removal. Were those lug nuts installed by "pros"? That would explain the need to stand on the wrench.

    I'd second a floor/style bicycle pump; that's all I ever use now, even for a near completely deflated tire, say after a plug repair.

    Tire marks in my experience are always indicating what corner the wheel came off of. It's the only sensible way to mark them.
     
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    ... very frequently discounted at Harbor Freight, though just about any stray section of iron pipe, large enough to fit over the lug wrench handle, is sufficient.
     
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    I'm too lazy (old, decrepit?) to use a breaker bar anymore. cordless impact wrench is the way to go... but it does cost a few extra bucks
     
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    For auto and motorcycle work, I've never ever had an issue with using PVC tubing; much lighter, cheaper, and doesn't rattle in the trunk. It's more than strong enough to snap a lug right off. My "nuclear option" is a 6 foot long piece of 3 inch oil field pipe. ;)
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    O.K. I guess I am a little girl who still worships her father.

    But, I also forgot that he taught me what he called the "gorilla" trick with the pipe extension, oh, so long ago.

    And, in my first car, I NOW remember I did carry a piece of pipe that fit over the "tire wrench."

    So, I have no one to blame for my extremely sore hip and leg than myself.

    but, the idea of a PVC extension is extremely appealing. Light, cheap and "workable." What diameter and what length for the "normal" passenger car are we talking about?

    I am also toying with the idea of buying the $50 Harbor Freight Impact wrench, though I probably will not. I want to get back to rotating my own tires (yes, insane, but I enjoy it --maybe).

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    Corded electric impacts seem to be going the way of the dodo. Sadly? They seem cheaper to buy, no bulky battery and a charger. Maybe they can't match the torque of the battery powered??
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    I'll have to give it a try, with the upcoming winter tire swap. It would certainly lighten the load in the trunk.

    And would be a good addition to the smaller niece's vehicle tool kit. When her hand-me-down Explorer had a flat, she could do almost all of the tire change herself, except that she just didn't have the body weight to break loose the lug nuts with the regular wrench.
     
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    I have a section of stout PVC here, 1½" or so, that I used a few times for some breaker action. It is shorter now than it was when I conscripted it for that job, and one end of it is very jagged and sharp, and my recollection is that shards of it went flying far and fast.
     
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    ^^ Any recollection what schedule it is/was, 40 or 80? White or dark?

    And what size vehicle was it used on? That Explorer will need something more stout than my Prius.
     
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    I'd get a breaker bar; they're cheap. 1/2" drive by 24" maybe?

    Taking a regular handle ratchet wrench and extending it with a pipe is likely overtaxing it's mechanism, could break it.

    Ok I guess a "cheater" would be ok to extend the Toyota lug wrench, say left in the car. I'd be inclined to use a steel plumbing/gas pipe. You could tape it to reduce rattles.
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    I still have not seen a recommendation in terms of size and schedule. I think I will go with 1" schedule 80. Maybe 18-inches.
     
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    This might be a place to mention two things I routinely do:

    (1) I use a torque wrench, and 76 foot-pounds, when I put the lug nuts on.

    (2) I have a little jar of anti-seize. I never put it anywhere, except a little dab now and then (from the tip of a jeweler's screwdriver) in the little gap between the captive washer attached to the lug nut and the bottom of the lug nut itself, where it bears down on the washer. And I spin the washer back and forth a bit so that little dab is spread around on the bottom of the nut.

    When I go to take the lug nuts off, it just isn't ever an uncivilized experience in the least.
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    Well, I spent another bit of cash on a Slime tire pump :cry::cry::cry:. Hmm....

    I found the Slime Garage kit on EBay, made a bid and $38.80 later....The kit seems pretty good. Retails for around $85 USD.

    Only issue is that it "screws onto" valves. Prefer the "press and clamp system." Buying an $8 extension hose solved that issue. It has fairly long reach,seems solid. Kit includes tire depth gauge. Works well so far. Time will tell.

    120V Garage Tire Inflator with Accessories Kit | Slime – Slime Products

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    Here's the collection of cheater pipes I use with breaker bars. I manage to bend one of the smaller ones on an FWD axle nut; moved up the 1&1/4 inch PVC + "nuclear option" (6ft metal pipe) which popped it loose quite easily. I have similar ones to the middle pipe in the picture stored in every car with a breaker bar+correct socket size. Just like in use, I store the breaker bar inside the pipe so no rattles.

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    might want to consider picking up a 13/16” impact socket to go with and keep it handy in the vehicle should you need it. That’s what I use.
     
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