KWh/ Mile? Justifying 19 cent KWh electric rate

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  1. markabele

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    Are you selling back to the grid? Do you have extra? How many kW system do you have?
     
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    Those massive debts did not just disappear
     
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    Generation costs, reportedly, are much higher. California has a lot of surplus capacity. It is easy to build new power generation plants (from a regulatory view). Plants are then operated at a lower capacity, but the full construction costs still get ‘baked in’ to the costs.
     
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    I am paying 18c for tier one as well, but hey, I would rather pay a little more for NOT using the gas and no I don't want to see my money goes to OPEC.
     
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    Did you try clicking the link?
     
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    I am really jealous. My rate with PG&E for tier1 400kwh is 20c, tier2 400kwh is 27C. If I choose timed rate, of peak (11pm-7am) is 12C but peak (2-8pm) is 45C which is ridiculous and not work for me due to central valley hot weather during summer.

    So I want to change to timed rate but switch back to tiered rate during summer, but that's too much hassle as it takes 1 billing cycle to take effect. PG&E just sucks and is like parasitic.
     
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    That is rough if you cannot put up PV.
    Even so, hang in there. Utility excess capacity is a moving target in California. They will come to you with better offers down the road and in the meantime, worse case you have a very efficient gas car.
     
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    I am looking to install solar panel. Once installed, I won't even care about utility companies, I would avoid them at any cost.
     
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    If anyone's interested in your cost savings getting a Prius Prime vs regular car, I've created an excel sheet you can play around with that's attached to this post. Only real variables are miles/kWh, kWh in eV, $/gal, and kWh cost.

    This excel sheet applies to all Prius, just change kWh in eV to 0, and change mpg.

    Has a tab for Tesla as well.
     

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    That's a nice sheet.

    This question is hard to model because our driving distances are variable. At least for the Prime, since it is probably the cheapest car for long trips it is probably fair to pick the most common distance and conclude that annual savings will be at least the calculated amount. Attempts to compare two plug-ins with different battery ranges is a mess.
     
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    Very nice. Thank you.
     
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