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Prius Plug In Update

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by -1-, Jun 8, 2013.

  1. -1-

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    For those interested, provide information on your PIP. Who has the highest mileage PIP? Best fuel average? Highest EV ratio? Anything else of interest?

    Year & model : 2012 Advance

    Color: Winter gray metallic

    Purchase date: January 2013

    Current mileage: 2400

    EV ratio since new: 70%

    Average MPG since new: ?

    Information date: 060813

    Any issues: None
     
  2. bisco

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    clearwater blue

    april '12

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    ev ratio 58%

    lifetime hsi mpg 175T :cool:

    06/08/13

    issues: zero(y)
     
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    clearwater blue (lovely color)
    bought: may 2013
    1000 miles so far
    ev ratio (but I am skeptical as to the true meaning/value of this) 33%
    mileage on first and only full tank: 722 miles, 8.6 galls, 83 mpg.
    I forget if high altitude (always above 9000 ft) has an effect on an auto's mpg. It does in the sense that it is always a little cooler up here.
    issues: just the fact that the engine warms up unnecessarily on trips of less than 5 miles.
     
  4. bisco

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    my ice never comes on in ev, is it due to extreme cold up there, or long initial decents? ev ratio is based on miles in ev, what's not to trust?
     
  5. john1701a

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    Only if you accelerate hard or turn on the heater.

    On my morning commute taking the river route, I routinely drive the entire capacity in EV with a cold engine. That includes a variety of starts & stops, a bit of hill climbing, and some cruising at 55 mph.
     
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    88 mpg by HSI (72 mpg including MPGe of electricity)
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    Got a "Shift to P" and orange triangle message 3 times. Apparently door was ajar. Could've just said that instead of the scary engine problem that a orange triangle alludes to.
     
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    Only trim in the UK which seems to be in the middle of your base and advance.

    Pearlescent white.

    Purchased - Jan 13.

    Current mileage - 10537

    Overall mpg since new - 83

    18% EV, total 1991 miles (399kwh)

    82% HV, total 8546 miles (used 126 gallons)

    No problems

    Info date 8/6/13.
     
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    Year & model : 2012 Advance
    Color: Pearl Sea Foam Green
    Purchase date: 23 (?) April 2012
    Current mileage: 26,000
    EV ratio since new: 20% - but this includes multiple long-distance trips, like Wash DC - Michigan Upper Peninsula - Kansas City - Wash DC.
    Average MPG since new: 55.6
    Information date: 060813
    Any issues: None
    Any wishes: that the traction EV battery could last 20 miles.
    Best mods, in terms of impact on driveability and liveability:
    1). EVSE Upgrade mod to the brick, so as to charge @ 240V with the standard utility rate (house) during the day, mostly weekend, while charging @240V in the lowest EV tier rate (dedicated 2d meter for EV - a Virginia special) during the night.
    2). Both of Mike500s underbody braces - the center brace and the front brace, coupled with the TRD rear anti-sway bar and the Cusco front strut tower brace. This car is now a stealth Super-Prius ;) he hee...
    3). Stage 10 button gear shifter - makes finger play between ECO and POWER buttons intuitive - see above line.
    4). FIAMM Highway Blaster horn duo - the High and Low frequency combo set.
    5). Brigade back-up White Noise reverse alarm.
    6). WeatherTech front floor pans.
    7). Weathertech window wind deflectors for all four windows.
     
  9. bisco

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    wow dad! what the heck is numero five o?
     
  10. Jetsurgn

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    Purchased - May 2012

    Current mileage - 21295

    Overall mpg since new - 81.5

    30% EV, (1430kwh) 261 gallons

    1 occurrence: Check Hybrid System ,Stop the vehicle in a safe place
     
  11. CaliforniaBear

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    From the Prius Plug-in FAQ
    • Why is ICE turning on when there's still battery left?
      There are any number of factors that can cause this. The manual outlines them on page 40:
      ●The heater etc. is in use.
      ●The temperature of the hybrid system is high: The vehicle has been left in the sun, driven on a hill, driven at high speeds, etc.
      ●The temperature of the hybrid system is low: The vehicle has been left in temperatures lower than about 32°F (0°C) for a long period of time etc.
      ●Power is needed temporarily, for example when accelerating suddenly.
      ●Vehicle speed is more than approximately 62 mph (100 km/h).
      ●The accelerator pedal is depressed firmly or the vehicle is on a hill etc.
      ●The outside temperature is low (less than 14°F [-10°C])
      Bullet points 4 & 6 refer to accelerating so hard that the HSI progress bar reaches into the PWR zone.
      In addition, it will also turn on when
      ●You have driven in EV mode with no ICE usage for 200 km (~124 miles)
      ●When using the front windshield defogger and coolant temperature is too low (more on that below)
      ●When you are braking/"coasting" and the traction battery is full (see question regarding the B drive mode below)
      Relevant threads: ICE in EV Mode … Again, ICE in EV Mode, why is my ICE starting???, confused about when ICE should run?, ICE Engine ON Indicator, EV mode and my ICE kicked in., Fully charge but ICE still running?, Is there any pattern for when ICE comes on?, Is the ICE kicking on in EV mode?
     
  12. ggood

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    I agree with those who say the engine comes on way too easily.
     
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    Tradeoffs are part of engineering. You want to increase the tolerance on something, that means something else must be decreased. How much of what would you want changed?

    Look at what Ford did for comparison. Cargo space and engine efficiency was traded for the sake of increased range & power.
     
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    Under what conditions does that happen for you? This happens for me only when going downhill with a full charge and using the brake. I can generally avoid that situation.
     
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    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    See Signature
     
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    Purchase date: October 2013

    Current mileage: 2652.5

    EV ratio since new: 76%

    Average MPG since new: 164

    Information date: 060813

    Any issues: None
     
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    I can generally avoid it as well but it would be much nicer if I didn't have to. There should be a button labeled: "I don't want ICE. Really, I don't need more power when I accidently step on the pedal too hard."
     
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    jd, straight up.:p
     
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    Sometimes its my fault - stepping on the gas too hard to get across an intersection, don't turn the auto temp down far enough to keep the heat from running, etc. Other times it just seems to be spontaneous, or to be reacting to what I consider normal acceleration. I have a 3.5 mile flat commute with a lot of lights (I know, rough, right?!). For whatever reason, I seem to be able to avoid it in the morning but coming back in the evening it often kicks on for no apparent reason, sometimes even after just coming out of the parking garage. Yes I know it has to run every so often, but this seems more often than need be. As mmmodem suggested, I'd prefer not to have to baby it so much. Seems like it could be a little less aggressive about coming on for heating and acceleration.
     
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    You just need to look at the HSI display that shows how the car is responding to the gas pedal. Keep it out of the PWR area and there should be no problem. Also if you use the ECO mode the gas pedal is less responsive to the amount you depress it making it easier to stay out of the PWR range.
     
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